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I think that before trying to explain the variations in Chinese medical practice, I ought to run through a summary of the basic theories first. I can see this being a long post .

Qi
Qi (or Chi) is the stuff of life. The early Taoists observed movement in the universe. They realised that nothing happens by itself and so pondered the origins, and from this devised the idea that Qi is the stuff that underlies all movement and function. It is that which holds the planets in the sky, it is that which can be felt when facing the sun. In human terms, it is that which provides the energy for metabolism and substance; nothing physical or emotional happens without qi involvement.

Qi exists in different forms simultanously. Using a candle as an example of the human body, qi is that which provides the physical form; the functional form can be thought of as the burning flame, and the heat can be felt as a different qi form. All expressions of qi in a different non-substantive state that could equate to the human "spirit" or unconcious.

Qi comes together at conception to form a new life, with qi inherited from the parents. The Taoists were looking for ways to "reunite" with the Tao or universe, and so developed ways of refining and transforming qi to a more "spiritual" form, called Shen. This Shen qi is the stuff of human spirituality, and resides in the body after being transformed from qi acquired from air and food. The organs all play a role in absorption, storage or transformation of qi, therefore sickness is represented as a disruption to the qi "mechanism". The Taoists realised that by circulating the qi through the body, it could be refined through physical and mental practices, hence the origins of Qi Gong and Tai Chi. There ultimate goal was to keep the body alive for long enough and healthily enough to fulfil their spiritual journey.

Through meditative practices, the ebb and flow of qi energy can be felt. This became the origin of the Channel theory; qi moves through all of the body structures, but there are areas of condensed flow, similar to the Gulf stream in the Atlantic. From there, they determined that distruption to the qi flow for some or other reason results in imbalance, the body no longer being in harmony either with itself or the wider universe. This flow can be "tapped" at access points, hence the acupuncture points known as "men" or gateway in Chinese.

The main list of events that can disrupt Qi flow is as follows-

Climactic factors, Wind, Cold, Damp and Heat, all of which may invade the body obstructing the channels
Inactivity; this creates stagnation in the movement of Qi as muscles and tendons tighten, they restrict Blood and Qi flow. This was especially relevent because of the many hours spent in meditation postures, and is still relevent due to modern lifestyles.
Emotions; Strong emotions, especially fear, anger, worry, frustration and so on were thought to "knot" Qi flow leading to internal inbalance. Qi once restricted may become "pressurised", creating internal disorders.
Diet; As we rely on diet to bring new Qi into the body, (along with air) a faulty diet can make qi difficult to absorb or transform. This especially includes cold foods, excessive amounts of rich foods, dairy foods and so on. Emotional factors were thought to affect digestion too.



Once the Qi flow is blocked, restoration of Qi flow is necessary to rebalance the body. This can be achieved in several ways-Expelling the pathogenic factors blocking the channelsCreating movement that encourages flow-this could be passive or active, hence tai chi or massage techniques.Resolve dietary faultsResolve emotional disturbanceBecause of the "cause and effect not different" view of the universe, emotional disharmony can be both the result of disturbed Qi flow, and/or the cause, hence someone often showing indications of severe worry may also exhibit digestive disorders, and vice versa. They are both part of the same pattern.

Disharmony may also result from, or cause, Qi deficiency. I like the analogy of a garden hose, with water in it, but turned off at the tap- not enough "pressure" in the system to move Qi. The water becomes stagnant if left long enough. Flow can also be disrupted by a foot on the pipe, even if there is enough pressure. From this comes the idea of Deficiency or Excess, which is one of the ways of begining to identify the main "flavour" of a pattern of disharmony. In practice several patterns may overlap, making diagnosis tricky. Stganation of qi means pain arising as a result of insufficient movement of Blood or Fluids.

In general, acupuncture is used (alongside other methods) to resolve Stagnation by stimulating Qi flow. It is also used to expel pathogens, often by causing sweating using strong techniques. It can also be used to "tonify" when Qi is deficient by stimulating the digestive and transformative functions. This is the basis for acupuncture as practiced in China today. However, there has been a hiatus in the development of CM during the late 19th and earlier 20th centuries, when there was an urge to "modernise". As I understand it, this never really happened to such a degree in places like Japan and Korea, and so different methods have evolves in these locations.

Variations have arisen as acupuncture came to the west. Five element acupuncture is a western variation on one particular methodological theory. This style is seldom practiced in China, being seen as outmoded. That's not to say it doesn't work, as many western practitioners will testify, it's just been superceeded by "new" ideas about "old" methods. The teaching of CM is supervised by the state, and there tends to be a defensiveness when it comes to other styles.

Another variation is Western Medical acupuncture. This attempts to explain the effects of acupuncture in biomedical terms, and is used primarily as an add-on technique by physios, GP's and osteopaths. There is usually derision for what is seen as outmoded theories of Qi, Yin/Yang etc. It worls well for musculoskeletal disorders, but usually is addressing "branch" symptoms rather than the "root" problem. It would not be used to say, tonify Deficient Qi as the language used doesn't allow it.

Other micro-systems have been devised, in which the idea that a small part of the body is a reflection of the rest. Auricular acupncture is one version, and often used in addiction clinics as it is quick, cheap and easy to learn. Being a western idea developed in France in the 1960's it tends to treat "symptoms" without looking at the person in their entirety. It can be helpful to get someone over the stress associated with addiction withdrawal, as a branch of the vagus nerve is stimulated which may slow heart and respiration rates experienced during anxiety. This is now being practiced by some CM practitioners. Other micro-systems exist, including Korean hand acupuncture.


There may be a name for this "school", but I'm not sure what it is. I studied TCM, which is the style of acupuncture taught in modern China, but this was after 15 years of studying Taoist principles and movement arts. The two are not usually linked in modern teaching, as the Chinese have mostly lost their connections with their early heritage, and stick to what is taught by the State. In the west we have had more open access to tai chi and qi gong than in China, so practitioners often develop simultaneous interests.

There, I'm all typed out. This is a very condensed version, of course, and like most things Chinese, open to other interpretations. I don't claim any expertise in this field!
 
Greetings from Thailand! Just been reading all the posts on this thread.

I have just finished studying Chi Nei Tsang, a form of bodywork based on the abdominal organs popularised by Mantak Chia. It is an intersting mixture of the the old (Trad Chinese Med) and the new (Western A&P). It's not just about the Qi and emotional associations but form that creates function (is there any difference in Qi, Emo & F/F in reality?). An interesting thing (in reference to K's post #20 about stiff necks) was a protocol to harmonise adrenal function (related to Kidney Qi) which reduces stiffness in necks. Oh those stressful burdens (sp) and responsibilities we place upon our shoulders, lol :))

Anycase, does anyone have an estimate of acupuncturists who are unlicenced by local councils?

Best wishes

RP
 
That's great David - thanks for the clarity.

Following on from that: if somebody wanted to find treatment that was as true to the original vision of osteopathy as possible, and who was really applying the 'osteopathic hypothesis' and not just paying lip service to the defining principles, I would know where to send them: to a Classical Osteopath. That's a bit of a generalisation, I know plenty of practitioners whom I respect enormously who are not 'classicists', my point is trying to work out what is equivalent in your field, if that's not a naive question.

If somebody wanted to find the equivalent in Chinese Medicine, what sort of practitioner whould they search for? I know now that I would be unlikely to call upon a medical acupuncturist for anything, if all I wanted was an endorphin rush there must be easier ways to get it. So what kind of therapist would I look for who would really see and address the patterns of disturbance in entirety, without compromise or pandering to my western expectations or the need of the state to control?
 
I realised I missed out one major style of acupuncture, that being "trigger point" acupuncture. Again, it tends to be practiced by physios etc, but is a development of a chinese practice. "Ahshi" (ouch-that's where it really hurts) points are often needled directly in TCM, along with points relating to the area affected and any points to address constitutional or pathogenic factors. In western eyes these often correlate to trigger points which are palpable within muscle fibres which may refer pain to other areas. Often the pain distribution pathways are the same as the "channels" favoured by CM. Travel and Clavey did a seminal work on this knowing nothing about acupuncture. Often the trigger points also correlate to acupoints in classical TCM. GB 21 is a good example-located on the superior border of the trapezius, roughly midway between the acromium and C7- a trigger point here often refers pain along the temple and neck following the pathway of the GB channel, which may be mistaken for migraine type pain causing a stiff neck. This is why examination of a painful problem should include palpation along the pathways close to the affected areas, these being the channels not taught in western acupuncture.

In terms of finding someone from outside of mainstream hegemony, including both allopathic and Chinese medicine, you probably need to find someone thats served an old style apprenticeship under the eyes of a master. As you can imagine, they are few and far between, but they do exist. The rest of us have to try to work out what's real and what's less real by clinical evaluation. There's a saying in the classical martial arts world- "when the student is ready, the master will appear." Maybe something similar applies when looking for elusive "masters" of medicine!
 
A brief reading list for those interested in CM

Ted Kaptchuk- The Web that has no Weaver -2nd ed
This book broke the mold, and is the first recommended text on many TCM courses

Giovanni Macciocia- The Foundations of Chinese Medicine
This is really for trainee practitioners, but considered essential in UK based TCM teaching

Tom Williams- Chinese medicine- Acupuncture, herbal remedies, nutrition, qigong and meditation for total health. Vega press.
One of my personal favourites, a low cost and highly accessible introduction to TCM theories and applications.

Eva Wong- The Shambala guide to Taoism
Not a medical text, but explains the origins of the spiritual ideas that led to the CM system and philosophy

For the deeper reader-
Paul Unschuld- Medicine in China, a history of idea. This is a phd-level text, not for the uninitiated

Catherine Hsu- The transmission of chinese medicine
An account of observations of an old style healer in China

Harold D. Roth Original Tao
This one goes much further that the Tao te Ching, and is much more accessible

Volker Scheid- Chinese medicine in contemporary China- plurality and synthesis
One of the best books to explain the development of medicine in 20th C China

Please feel free to extend this list.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐”ธโ„™โ„๐•€๐•ƒ ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ APRIL 19th , Fฬฝอ“Rฬฝอ“Iฬฝอ“Dฬฝอ“Aฬฝอ“Yฬฝอ“ ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 6๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน SOPHIE ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• OLIVIA ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• SUNNY ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• TINA ๐ŸŒน CHERRY ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ SOPHIE & ๐Ÿ†• SUNNY & ๐Ÿ†• TINA & ๐ŸŒน CHERRY ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• OLIVIA โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
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  32. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน ๐ŸŒนJessica and Cici. Guys come over and try the table shower body slide. It's super enjoyable๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    SEXY ZOE & MUI CALIENTE STELLA TODAY @ SPARKLING SPA!!! 50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave)โœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS
  34. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, LUCY, ANAYA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  35. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SARIKA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  36. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Cuban girl (Mimi) and New Asian (Apple) in today
  37. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new pretty cute Sally and GFE Ivy with curve body,sexy Coco and cute Ella open mind are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Candy, Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful sexy
  42. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinede Judy, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Vicky, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  43. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, LUCY, ANAYA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  44. Dreaminn:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA๐Ÿ’ญ: LULU, MELODY & SUGAR 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie) Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-829-2983 โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a popular & well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim & beautiful, 5โ€™3โ€, 105 pounds with 34C Cups & incredible services. MELODY is young, slim and slightly curvy, 5โ€™3โ€ and 105 pounds, hourglass sexy shape, and delicious
  45. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ SELINA: A TALL AND SLENDER ASIAN GIRL, VERY FRIENDLY AND ABLE TO PROVIDE AN RMT LIKE MASSAGE ๐ŸŒธ NANCY: A PETITE CURVY YOUNG VIETNAMESE GIRL THAT IS VERY FUN AND OPEN MINDED ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  46. GoldenFlower:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป GOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป ๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jessi, Jojo, Sherry & Sonia Jessi is a slim and petite Vietnamese hotty who is garnering repeat visits. Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Sherry is an attractive slim Asian sweetie.
  47. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธHelen & Jenny. Helen is a sweet and very lovable Asian beauty with just enough curves to tease you, and an attitude to please you. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sofia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    SUPER HOT STELLA & SERVICE QUEEN ZOE @ Sparkling Spa๐Ÿ‘ŒMENTION OUR ADS AND RECEIVE A ROOM DISCOUNT $35 FOR 30MIN, $50 FOR 45MINโ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8
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