Apprenticeships vs Traditional Massage School

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I've heard a lot of complaints about the poor quality of education at most massage schools. And it seems that most people on this board had to educate and train themselves after school.

Did anyone here go through an apprenticeship program instead of traditional massage school?

Does anyone teach an apprenticeship program who can offer insight?
 


I know that there are no apprenticeship programs here in Florida as they are not recognized as a legitimate path to licensure. Decades ago it was but there was so much abuse in the system that they did away with it. Seems that a lot of spas and resorts would bring in untrained people from other countries and take advaneforum.xxxe of them under the guise of "apprenticeship."

Your basic training whether from a school or an apprenticeship is simply a starting off point. It's your foundation. Once the foundation is in place, you can go off in whichever direction you'd like. You can study and specialize in many different branches.

There's no way that a one year program (or whatever the school puts forth) can teach you all there is to know if the field of massage. It's just too vast and diverse.

Angie
 


Interesting observation and questions! I hope the following thoughts prove helpful to you.

I have no complaints about the massage training I received at Northwestern Health Sciences University (http://www.nwhealth.edu). It was a great experience from start to finish, and I had no particular difficulty transitioning to working at a busy massage center. However, I have also aggressively pursued continuing ed because even the best schools can only teach so much. The best MTs I have met regularly update their knowledge at seminars and never stop trying to further educate themselves.

One of the strengths of the program I attended was the number of practice sessions required to be performed outside of class. Instead of just working on each other, we learned largely by practicing on friends, family, and even strangers. The school would occasionally bring in volunteer clients that we didn't know so we could practice on unfamiliar bodies and hone intake skills. During our last few terms, we did shifts in a teaching clinic that prepared us for work in the real world, including multiple clients back-to-back, some with significant health issues.

Part of our pathology training also included doing a series of massages on a volunteer client suffering from a long-term serious health condition. This gave us a chance to experience the challenges of such work and learn how our work could provide benefit to a client with that condition. This series of sessions was in addition to those required for the rest of the curriculum.

All sessions performed outside of class had to be fully documented with client health histories, SOAP notes, etc. It wasn't easy at first, but the practice really helped me develop good intake skills and clinical reasoning. When I ran into unusual stuff during a session, I could take those questions to class for discussion with the instructors, and look for additional answers in the cadaver lab.

As a former project manager and marketing director, I was a little disappointed with the business curriculum. I would have structured it a bit differently, but overall it included many important skills and I feel it was helpful to most students. As I understand it, a number of positive changes suggested by students have been incorporated to strengthen this portion of the program.

To me, the program I graduated from had most of the strengths of an apprenticeship plus all of the strengths of a "traditional" school structure. Everything taught was presented in a manner that built progressively upon the material previously learned, and the instructors worked with us as individuals to address specific learning challenges. At the same time, we had the benefit of learning from multiple instructors, with the primary instructors all having more than 15 years of professional experience.

Now that I co-own a massage center, I am offering internship opportunities to students enrolled in local massage schools. Their time interning at our business counts towards school credit, satisfying a portion of their business-related training. It's a great opportunity for them to see how things work in the real world and interact with experienced therapists in a working environment. It falls far short of being an apprenticeship, but we have received rave reviews from the students and schools that have participated so far.

Hope that helps you realize that there are some truly excellent massage schools available. Even if you have to travel to attend one, it's probably a better choice than enrolling in the most convenient place "because it's closer/cheaper" - I have talked to many MTs that now regret making that choice.

Also, most employers want to see that an MT attended an accredited massage school. This is particularly true for new grads. I don't have time to verify the quality of an independent instructor that offers apprenticeships, and it's highly unlikely they'll be able to offer a truly well-rounded training experience. Their apprentices will most likely be limited by the instructor's weaknesses (as practitioner or as a teacher). Being skilled at massage doesn't automatically confer teaching ability.

I understand that a number of elder practitioners learned via apprenticeship and some were fortunate to have had exemplary experiences... but they are the minority, and frankly some didn't have the alternate option of having a quality accredited massage school to attend. Such schools are much easier to find now, and employers rapidly learn to assess the quality of a school's grads as they come in to apply for positions. If you are thinking of picking a school, consider asking employers in the area what school(s) they would most recommend, and why. This will tell you much about how each school is perceived, and give you some insight into how to make yourself a more attractive future applicant. ;)
 


Jason,
excellent advice as far as asking employers what school they like to hire from, tells you a lot.

Jason
 
apprenticeships are the best way to learn

Keith Grant who is a massage school teacher and leader in creating legislation for massage therapists wrote a white paper a few years ago that actually shows that apprenticeship programs are a better way to learn.

You can read it on his website

http://www.ramblemuse.com/articles/masg_governance_rev.pdf


Julie
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  38. Newspring@:
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  39. SL West:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Freedom Friday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Aaliyah, Tina, Coco, Cici, JPN Yui, Super Happy, Echo, Selena & Dorisโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธMei๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Moneylee:
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  43. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  44. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)best massage in vaughan,if you need to find a comfortable place to revive your body rexlaing come visit us.๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Jessica C cup,very good looking really know what do you want๐Ÿ˜ปJoey very beautiful face nice body slide,good deep tissue massage.sevrvice queen Amy she can do everything you want,must try๐Ÿ…๐Ÿท๐ŸทL6a4h8๐Ÿ“ช
  45. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla, Lily & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„ Nayla is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. ๐Ÿ˜˜ Lily is a young & Pretty Vietnamese Girl ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  46. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet slime Summer 30โ€™s and cute EFG Lina , sexy Coco and pretty Tina 30โ€™s with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North YorK
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Jessica 155 cm, 90Ibs Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along Sasa Sexy Vietnamese Body Type She is very sweet Provides Excellent Customer Service Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. See You Health Center:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, Sexy Skinny Spinner Body โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
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