First time considerations

[Cliff]

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Anyway, so going to head in tomorrow with my colleague. What's the usual chain of events at the top tier? I haven't seen a thread go into particulars yet. For example, correct me if I'm wrong but let's assume:
make appointment (somewhat optional)arrive, pay 'room' fee to 'reception'escorted by masseuse (usually) to roomdiscuss with masseuse what service is requested and paystrip and shower (what's she doing at this time, usually?)face down on table waiting for masseuse (in these cases, no towel )massage plus whatever service requestedreleaseshower while she cleans up or what nottip accordinglypost on massageplanet.net about experience
Does that sound right? Of course, there could be lots of filler, but assuming fresh call whereby 'extras' aren't factored in. Also assuming these are all cash only transactions (no insurance, no plastic, no nothing)

 

[Sean Z]

pretty good breakdown, although:

* discuss with masseuse what service is requested and pay

sometimes this is only brought up during the massage - depends on the place/MPA.

 

[Liberal Nemesis]

During the massage? That would be kind of interesting. I was under the impression that most of the time it's discussed upfront and paid. Again, this is assuming relatively new visits. If you're an old, erm, hand, so to speak, it's a totally different... erm.. ball game. Heh.

 

[jlyn]

If it brought up by the MPA it more often than not (at least in my experience) during the massage.
Some though will bring it up right at the start.
All depends. Sometimes they just want to get a level of comfort with you before going into details like that - that is why a lot of times it is just during the massage that it is discussed.
Others might have very different experiences though.

 

[d3midway]

Thank you for your replies In the cases you specify then, one would pay in whole, plus tip at the end of the experience. All right.

 

[Vera Jetta]

Discussing what you want can happen before the massage. When the girls says what are you looking for I'll tell her that I want a BS. I might get detailed and say back rub, then massage her, then slide or throw in MSOG by starting with the front.

The places I go to usually have set prices so I often settle up at the beginning of the session to get the money part out of the way.

To answer some of your other questions.....

she's not in the room when you shower the first time.

at the end of the session she's usually cleaning the room while you shower.

as for lying on the table you don't have to do that before she enters.... you could just sit on the table. But stay undressed, MPA's will think something is up if you keep say your boxers on.

If it's a place that I know well and trust I often just lay out the tip before the session and the girl will know what type of session I'm looking for.

I suggest looking at all the links to spas on massageplanet.net.... some of them list rates for nude reverse, and slides that will give you an idea of price ranges.

Also the other common question is about MSOG some charge extra for this usually $20 or $40 more..... but some don't charge extra (depends)

 

[Am_I a_Beatlesfan??]

In my experience it's almost always pay at the end, at the better spas.

 

[~*~honey~*~]

Thanks for all the information. I'm not certain if that's an intended pun you've got there

On the note of MSOG, just how might one approach this without being pretentious? Certainly not "$20 $20! Ok $30 for a few shots on goal! C'mon!"

 

[RockTheCasbah]

"Prepare for a major financial committment to a new and addictive hobby" - probably on the order of at leat $5,000 per year

 

[Pompal 09.]

I didn't mean for a pun I'm just not that smart..... but if you leave some clothes on the MPA might think you are LE.

Let's say you go to one of the top spas and pay 40 for the room 100 for a slide that includes one shot. For an extra shot some won't charge extra some will charge an additional $20.

It depends if you are getting a slide they will cut more of a break for the second SOG. But if you want say just a topless and MSOG the tip might be more..... not sure I'm a slide/MSOG kinda guy.

If you get an hour session more often than not the second SOG is free but you just paid $160 to $180 for the hour. Be careful with the hour some places will try and charge more than that don't go higher than $200... even then that's a bit pricey for me.

As for how to ask just be direct..... what you think you're the first guy to ask? Just let her know you'd like to come twice she'll let you know if it's extra...... assuming you've already discussed T/N/NR/BS already.

Yeah it's fun to talk in code but really let's be honest they've heard it all before so just go for it. The best way to get exactly what you want is to be explicit but remember these girls work as MPAs and not escorts so bj and fs is much harder to find.

 

[ideas]

Burt have you been going over my books again?

 

[Not A Supermum!]

Heh. I'm pretty sure she'll think something is up but with them off, she'll see something is up

Anyway. Again, great information! This type of info really should be put into the newbie links guide or something.



I don't anticipate spending much as my lady already provides the best... erm well... GFE. This is more of introducing my colleague (and somewhat myself) to this rather interesting niche market. Of course, I'm sure you've heard that before... "I'm just going to try it out" and $5,000 later, it's been a year!

 

[The INFORMER]

There used to be a sticky for newbies don't know what happened to it.

 

[Catwomen]

At the top tier spas I usually find the order to be:

1. check website to see who's available
2. phone ahead and book appointment (the top girls are rarely available to walk-ins as they're usually booked already)
3. arrive at spa, tell them who you're here to see and confirm your appointment the pay door fee
4. get escorted to the room (by receptionist or MPA - it depends)
5. undress and shower
6. wait 5-10 minutes for MPA to enter the room while trying to warm up after getting out of the shower.
7. MPA enters room and you great each other - hug and/or peck on cheek, introduction if first time seeing MPA.
8. get rid of your towel and hop on the table - face down
9. MPA asks if you like oil, lotion, or baby powder
10. massage starts with a little chit chat
11. 10-20 minutes pass (depending on how long your session was booked for ans how good a massuese she is) before she asks if ou want extras.
12. run through the list of extras and rates but don't settle for anything other then then NR or BS (you'll may insult them if you want less or if you pry for more).
13. enjoy the extras and finish
14. MPA gets hot towel to clean you up a little.
15. she hops in the shower first while you relax a few minutes.
16. you go in the shower while she cleans the room
17. you get dressed while she either leaves the room to get clean sheets and towels or she waits.
18. pay the attendant for the services
19. MPA escorts you to the door where you grab some water or candies.
20. get in your car and snap back to reality.

you need to get rid of the towel first before ever discussing extras. That way she'll know you not LE if you're standing there naked. i find letting her bring up the discussion of extras gets a better response then if I ask (they're more confortable knowing they're in control and you're not a pushy creep). If they don't bring it up after a long time then chances are they are either very shy or they wouldn't be too interested in the session anyway. Your call on whether to ask but if they don't seem interested then don't ask and save yourself some money.

 

[dafiglebob]

Regarding the extra's as others have mentioned it varies from spa to spa. Some will not even discuss the concept of extra's unless you are nude on the table and the massage has started as a minimum. If you ask before hand they more than likely may say they don't do extras. You need to commit before them, and some may need a second visit before they are comfortable with you. Body rubs can work differently than holistic. If holistic, and they offer the "goods" up front, how safe can the place really be? You could be LE. And if they are not that concerned, chances are the risks are higher. Also, once the massage has progressed, they could wait for you to ask, if you don't ask, they will not offer. Again a safety factor. Once asked, they may wait for you to suggest a fee, which they will consider, from there things should go smoothly, once they know you are for real.

Important to note, never be aggressive or demanding always be pleasant and polite, this will help ensure a great experience. If you are aggressive, offer a very low "tip", Mr. Happy may not be so happy in the session.

Please remember, holistics are not required to provide anything more than a basic massage period. So anything else even a release, they do is purely on a case by case basis, based on what they think of you and your tipping ability.

As with most successful transactions, it should be a win/win situation, you treat them right, provide a decent tip, and more times than not, you will also find happyness and a state of bliss in your session with your MPA.

 

[Lil Mz Qu33nz 24/7]

- Girls hand room fee to owner/manager.
- Stand in front of mirror, check hair & make-up.
- A touch of perfume/body spray.
- Gum for the smokers.
- Catch few mins of American Idol.
- Adjust her dress.
- Race down hallway to room.

P.S.: At low-end places, those towels are great source of DNA, not yours! Beware!

 

[ross097]

You forgot the part where they talk about the customer to other MPA's before the session.

 

[h m]

I thought the 'receptionist' took the room fee Of course, places differ. Tonight I'm off to Allure.

 

[Carver Descartes]

This is similar to what I experienced.
It also depends on how you go there. If you are clean shaven and go neatly and dont smell alcohol...they will bring it up naturally....
Giving lost puppy looks help

 

[bluesclues]

Option A
21. Stick keys into ignition. Thoughts to one self "hmmmm I think she really likes me!! I should re-book to see if she did"
22. Drive by ATM and thinking..."hmmm did my paycheck clear...take out $200, carry the 4, pay the phone bill...twice in a 2 day span!??!...its doable"
23. Get boner at red light thinking of what just happened and anticipation of next visit.
23. Rush home....boot up computer, thinking "common common...finally" Open up website schedule...relief that schedule and timing coniciding...call Spa.
24. Re-adjust voice either deeper or higher depending...rebook with attendant.
25. goto 3

Option B
21. Stick keys into ignition. Thoughts of "That sucked....!@!!@#!@# I'm getting out of this fracking hobby...what a waste of time....I'm deleting my self from massageplanet.net. What a stuck-up !@#!@#$ YMMV my arse..."
22. Car cuts you off...snap back to reality.
23. Drive by bank ATM....thinking...hmmmm I wonder who is working at Allure/SRM....I mean it can't get any worse....hmmm did my paycheck clear...take out $200, carry the 4, pay the phone bill...twice in a 2 day span!??!...its doable"
24. Get boner at red light thinking the possibility of Jennifer, Raquel, Liz or Sophie oh and perhaps Monica with the ninja finger being available.
25. Get to spa and pleasantly surprised at the availability and luck. Book appointment.
26. Smile
27. Goto 4

21. A/B(a1) Get home Log on to massageplanet.net, Check schedules. Do search. Review if applicable.

Either way it sucks you in so Newbie be careful...more addictive than crack.