Just some thoughts as I leave

[seamstress]

As I have had my last sessions in Toronto, before I move to Ottawa, I am reflecting on this hobby / semi-addiction that commenced for me as a 25 year old in early 2001. I am not quitting.... but somehow as I have become very picky in who I see (has to be hot and not be an ice queen) I think my time spent at MP's in Ottawa will be cut significantly... and that is probably good.


My first session was at Alphacare - didn't think it was that bad at the time - but in retrospect, yes it was nasty..... That place disgusts me.

For most of 2001/2002 I was just trying to find places with decent girls... without massageplanet.net or the internet, it was basically hit or miss. I did find a few good places at that time. I went quite a bit to Creditstone Spa (back when there was very hot EE's there).... then at some point I went back after three months away and I don't know what happened but it was the saddest looking bunch ever. The next places I found were Blue Pearl and Utopia... both places had some nice looking girls but for the most part I don't really remember any.... I was always a walk-in (the one girl I do remember is Savannah at Utopia prior to her enhancements). There was a lot of shitty spas and shitty attendants I saw at the time too - times where I wonder if I had it in me to actually get it up.... but it always came through somehow.

At this time I remember walking into SRM and HFH and not being satisfied with the girl available at the door... and then I wrote them off for a couple of years. DUMB!!! I was also a mute with the girls so I never got any input as what other good spas were out there.

Finally in 2003 I found Platinum, the spa I have had the most sessions in... my first regular was Claudia (now at Cannonball). She might still be the hottest MPA I have ever seen - and IMO, she looked much better pre-enhancement. I only started lurking on this board at the beginning of 2006, and I get the impression that Platinum was underrated. Claudia, Nicole, Nancy, Alexis have provided some good sessions over the past three years.

Then in the summer of 2003, I found the Big-Time. Stressed and on a lunch break at a client in the EBC area (where I never went), I chose at random one spa - thankfully it was IT. I saw great after great girl there first being Vanessa, then Amber, Jenna, Alexis. I did settle on one... Samantha. She was amazing - what a bod, and she had a great personality. She would be the one girl I would like to bring back.

For much of the summer of 2003 thru the summer of 2005, I just alternated between Platinum and IT - I was still fairly quiet, and did not dig into girls past (and without access to certain sites) I had no clue about SRM, Allure or HFH. Started seeing a few new girls at IT, namely Tia, Estelle, and Kiki, all of whom looked great and provided great sessions. Then finally, one of the attendants there informed of Allure, SRM and HFH - and over

And for some reason, last year I decided to become a human and talk to the attendants -it took me a while, but I am very comfortable (too comfortable) now with any girl be it a first session or a tenth session with them. Most girls are surprised that I was once so quiet.

Thankfully, I am making well over double now then in 2001, because the last year and a bit has been an adventure for me as I stick exclusively to the Big 4. Being extremely comfortable around MPA's, and being a nice guy at the same time, has not always been that great. Many MPA's feel comfortable discussing the shit going on at spa's, and I have been much too involved in the drama at the big 4, in the past year.

Most big moves between spas by the elite MPA's, I have known about (and there is a big one coming in the next few weeks of a favourite on this board). I know who most girls hate in this industry - and trust me once girls get comfortable with you they won't shut up about it... . . I have got to know a few retired / active MPA's on the outside... had them cry to me as they try to get out of the industry. It's not an easy industry, and for the most part MPA's are good people ... I will not pass moral judgments on people in this industry, because I do not consider "sexual practices" to be part of one's moral character, as long as it does not included

Had a little too much drama then I needed... and to be honest the drama was a factor in driving me to the Spa... it did become an addiction at times, and there's certain MPA's I had to avoid.

I really don't have a TDL - most girls I wanted to see based on massageplanet.net reviews, I have seen.

In it all, there was one regular MPA, that I saw from early 2005 to now... One of the most intriguing individuals I have met in my seven years in Toronto. We started out being fairly detached from each other, but we both opened up to each other. I always think of the weird dynamic that is a massage session with someone you know well... you can have a pretty serious discussion, perhaps some personal issues - you basically become just as impressed with the real individual then the attendant ... and then you have to flip into a sensual attitude at the middle of a session... when the girl looks amazing and provides excellent service the fun gets completed fairly easily. You know who you are - good luck.

Just a few more random points.

 

[J2J]

Interesting reflections 5 years ago I discovered B&S, 4 years ago IT and about a year ago SRM. I guess I was lucky enough to find the good spas early and only spent a few months failing to find anything good downtown.

I hear what you are saying about gossip it certainly travels when you get to know some of the girls. For me I like to talk but sometimes I can be caught in a quiet mood.

I fully understand about the emotional stuff you're talking about. While contact outside of spas is rare for me there is definitely a demand of an ear.

As for addiction, there's probably a good number of us out there who have gone through various degrees of excess.

Anyways, best of luck in Ottawa. I think you'll probably find it more fun than you think. Or perhaps a time for a break who knows?

 

[bobjohnson]

Other thoughts.

1. My favourites right now - some I have seen much more then others. The two most important characteristics too me are the person's looks and her personality - if the person is a bore or is not overly attractive, no matter what the services, I will usually move on.

(alpha order)
Alexis - Platinum
Athena - SRM
Jessica - HFH
Jordan - Allure
Leilani - Allure
Liz - SRM
Kelly - SRM
Nicole - Platinum
Sasha - Allure

2, Most underappreciated MPA here - Kelly, Alexis, Nicole.

3. Favourite Manager - Tia at Platinum. Looks amazing, and she is just so kind and easy to talk to.

4. Most attractive attendants - Jordan, Leilani, Nicole

5. Best Newcomer - JORDAN at Allure. Ultimate combination of looks and personality... book early.

6. Biggest regrets
- Not knowing about the B-Chain back in 2002/2003. Seems like there was alot of fun to be had ... while I was spending my time searching in shitholes.
- Not really knowing about HFH until 2005.

7. One thing that angers me to a certain degree, is the lack of respect that some people on this board for MPA's - they are not all vindictive, they don't all hate you... yes they are there only for the money. So what? I only go to work for the money as well - doesn't mean I don't treat others with a certain level of respect. But just because this involves sexual services, your ready to talk them down and consider them awful human being. Alot of the MPA's I know are on a good plan, have a good education, and are genuinely nice.

8. For the most part I have avoided MPA's in the teens or early 20's. I find MPA's in there mid 20's are comfortable with there lives, with there job, and are in the process of moving in.

9. I preferred my sessions when I was not on massageplanet.net. After reading massageplanet.net, there is already a basic expectation for what might happen. There was much more excitement when I went to see an MPA prior to this year, and I had no clue what to expect. It made sessions that much greater.

10. Who I wish could come back into the industry - Samantha, Claudia.

Then again, I am always glad when someone I know who wants to get out, gets out.

11. Thirty five minutes of typing for these two posts. That's enough, lol.

 

[bealzebub]

WOW, now thats what I call a wealth of information. thank you for sharing your thoughts and reflections, I'm sure a number of GTA MPA's are going to miss you.
so many points we are in agreement on.
I'm sure you'll find Ottawa has a couple of treats in store for you, just not nearly as many options, or caliber. the occasional trip to montreal can be a benefit

 

[Syntinen Laulu]

ditto

 

[Emma Rose]

Thanks Frank. A little break is what I am hoping for, to be honest.

 

[honeydipn]

well that's what they say... I think a few might actually mean it...

But then again they all told me I gave such a good massage, and that I was the only one that they provided certain services too, and that I was the easiest guy to talk to. So of course they will all miss me

 

[Somebodyelse]

recently I was told I had the biggest she had ever seen lol, of course I believed her I mean why wouldnt I?

 

[Pompal 09.]

I'm figuring a good 50K at least has been spent in my hobbying career over 7 or 8 years. IF I had that now...... there'd be plasma TVs in front of the toilet and a fridge by the bed and a humidor packed full of cohibas and a pound of the sweetest cheeba in the freezer and god knows what else.

 

[A teen talking here]

But would you really trade in all those years of hobbying for the plasmas?

 

[Tiffany!]

It's tough to get out but I definitely wouldn't call it easy money. Even the top MPAs have tough days and tough customers sometimes.

To go from $1000 a day to $1000 a week lets say is a tough adjustment.

I'm depressed that I went through 7 years of university in programs requiring a B+ or better and fall into the later category. But I guess the pay off is in other areas other than straight finances.

 

[shell_vac]

To elaborate on the money not being easy...... I'd have a hard time pretending I was loving every minute with a fat, hairy drunk dude, who can't take a hint, is rough and has no concept of what actually pleases a woman.... oh yeah he's also high on coke or heroin or drunk so it takes forever to get this guy off. Not to mention he has the attitude that the woman is a object not a person.

That may not happen all the time but once would be too many times for me.

 

[Aimz]

http://web.archive.org/web/20031202214330/www.4u2touch.com/ladies.html

The way it was in the fall of 2003... when my spending $$$ started to increase quite a bit.

 

[Da laiker]

I dont know how the girls do it sometimes. some sessions must be just hell.
I spent almost 15 years in the adult entertainment biz, and have heard and pretty much seen everything.

 

[Moonrat]

Ah, IT...I used to work in that area for years not knowing that IT was around the corner (if I remember correctly, there's a burger joint close by that we used to frequent). When I finally clued in, I wanted to go see Paige but got Samantha instead...which was a pretty good trade-off as it turned out.

 

[Cham]

However the good side about this is that a halfway nice guy can come across looking pretty good next to the afforementioned fellow. By that I mean the composite I made up not AM, who is an upstanding guy.

 

[iTz dEE]

lol thanks for being clear on that FC. if all the clients were like you or I, the girls would never want to retire

 

[ALLURING]

Thanks for sharing your experiances.

I can write a book based on my 14yrs of Mp experiances (I might even do it at some point).Overall TO's Mp market is one of the best and a part from a few cities stupid By-law is still fully thriving.

 

[Azumi]

OMG. That was the golden age when I started going there that was the killer line up.

To answer F's questions would I trade in the hobbying experience for a bunch of nice toys?

You know what? Probably not. I don't think you can put a price on friendship.

 

[smcoren]

Wow, makes me reflect a lot. I'll spare you my recollections. Suffice it to say I agree with FC 100%. Some of my favourite times in this hobby, have been with MP girls. Without the expectation of full on sex, super high mileage with a list of acronyms as long as your arm, you can just relax a bit, let someone look after you, and really get a chance to get to know somebody a bit. The MP will always be my favourite aspect of the hobby.