Massage Intimacy Workshop in Toronto?

[orly]

Intimacy Workshop in Toronto?

I have had many PM's and E-mails as usual from my Toronto reports expressing interest and support for my intimacy ideas. Sometimes people don't want to talk about it publicly since others see it as being a sissy and not manly to be enjoying the more caring good touch physical intimacy side of sensuality and sexuality other than just "having sex" which is what some men are only interested in.

One person in particular is very serious about trying to organize maybe a more private forum for those of us with a serious intimacy interest. And perhaps be able to meet and SHOW and SHARE ideas in a workshop situation if we have some interested people and willing women as "dummies".. no offense intended to show and tell with.

I have done intimacy workshops for swingers, been a speaker at national Lifestyles Conventions, hosted massage rooms at swing conventions and am more than happy to do something in Toronto if there is interest. I would not seek any profit for doing so, but we may charge a fee and have to pay for the time of willing providers to be the...model...that's a better word. But it would have to be a like minded provider that enjoys the physical intimacy side. Ideally a lap dancer, massage provider and maybe an escort. Or we could have separate workshops for each. Actually I have less to share about an escort since harder to do but would have lots to share on giving NR massage (Esalen style) and my ideas on intimacy with lap dancers. Plus I am sure others have much more that can be shared.

The ideas could also be used on your girlfriends which could be even more rewarding. Every time I come to Toronto I hear from so many dancers and MT's how few men have good touch skills. I do not mean to come off as "Gods gift to women" but I have 20 years experience perfecting and experimenting with good touch which has always been an interest of mine. Much of it started from my life changing experiences at Stan Dale's Human Awareness Institute, Love Sex and Intimacy workshops back in the 80s which I discuss at http://www.libchrist.com/background/hai.html.

I use to be VERY shy, scared to death of women, didn't date till a Jr in college and came across as very "needy". Obviously I have been cured - some say making up for lost time. I credit the above mentioned workshops for much of my current intimacy fetish along with my being professionally trained in Esalen massage http://www.libchrist.com/intimacy/esalen.html

I am sure there are others that are as good or better as I am (and as humble) who could also share ideas.

Since I leave Toronto Tuesday early am, any workshop if they occur will not occur until a future trip. I do hope to return to Toronto 1-2 times yet this summer/fall before it gets cold up here! And its very hot in Phoenix (104-108 F or about 40C now for the rest of the summer) But I also have to earn a living back in Phoenix to afford these trips.

I am planting this seed and looking for any initial indications of interest to see if the idea has any merit.

If you might be interested with a relatively low cost (unless we have volunteer providers as "models") please E-mail me at [email protected] and indicate if most interested in my lap dance techniques, massage (Esalen techniques) or escort techniques or "ALL".

We also would have to have a private place where nudity is allowed. Could be a large hotel room with cost to cover expenses or maybe we can find a willing MP. And need a massage table (I have 2 at home but can't just bring with me) But these are details that can be worked on later depending on the response...and possibly some providers that may be interested (especially if volunteer their time)!

For those that think these sissy intimacy ideas are bull and not manly enough for real men, ..please just don't bother to respond - I already know what your thinking! But I know more and more men are getting in touch with their more intimate side and like the results with women when they do lean high touch skills rather than JUST "great sex".

 

[stevepitt2]

Too Funny


I say we all just hold hands and have a good cry.

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[Lore]

I have been seeing the same massage attendant for 4 years. We've had our ups and downs but we always enjoy each others company. I have all the intimacy I need for now. Thanks anyway.

 

[Strawberry Milk]

What do you guys mean?

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[brwneyes]

LMAO

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[:-)]

I'm all for it as long as I don't have to see Dave or Fred naked.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I love intimacy with a woman I care for and don't have a problem opening to enjoy it. IMO the hobby stuff is a combination of business and fantasy. Why deliberately add intimacy to an already cloudy area. We will just end up with more Humble D's.

If he just means sensual touch, that's a different thing.

V12

 

[Quaker O]

I think the problem is we have warped the literal meaning of intimacy and learnt that emotion is connected with sensual touch.

Dave, I for one would be interested in attending an intimacy workshop.

 

[quizzard123]

It was through Dave's sexwork website that I found many useful links including massageplanet.net and MBB.

Dave is an articulate voice that has no doubt attracted many American clients to our fine establishments in Brampton, Mississauga and Toronto.

He doesn't deserve the trite remarks in this thread - although I am sure they were meant in jest.

NO flames intended, I just wanted to give my two cents that Dave's contribution to the industry we all enjoy has not been unnoticed.

I am not interested in his workshop but for those that are I am sure you will probably learn something.

Cudos to you Dave for your fine work.

 

[Lorrie Anderson]

Just trying to imagine what would happen if the average massage skills of the hobbyists improve significantly after the workshop, (ie very noticeable to the MPAs), what would that mean to Mr Dave-i-p's future sessions.
Is his intimacy reverse massage being less special to the MPAs now so that they become less responsive ? or the MPAs will jointly reward him by giving him some sort of lifetime discount because their everyday professional life (ie the NR part) have improved after the workshop.

The MPAs should get on this board and report on the before and after effects.

 

[isabella]

Thanks hexter, jazznhoop and pool for your comments.

Roadrunner, I would be thrilled if MPA would realize the difference. I have no need or interest to be exclusive. I write about the intimacy side seeking to encourage others if they so wish to developmore physically intimacy skills as many have.

The response is truely amazing I share that not to brag or be "God's gift to women" but to show the power of it if you are willing to learn these skills. But I think it also has to be natural, from the heart not just a technique that can be learned mechanically.

As jazznhoop said it also involves sensuality and erotism combined with gentleness, caring touch and warm heart. I never for example finger her vagina. I don't do oral, DATY or many things most guys think is intimate. It is easier to do than explain and I think its more how its done that what is done especially with an escort. In massage its more Esalen related massage techniques but not the spiritual ..what I call hocus pocus that some combine with it...its caring physical massage Esalen type strokes and attitude.

I have written zillions of articles trying to describe what I consider physical intimacy (vs emotional, spirititual, intellectual intimacy). All with the idea of planting seeds for other to explore that aspect.

To be its how I express what I call "Universal Love" for the moment for the person I'm with for the time I am with them. It is totally different than "falling" in love which often is possessive, having to have, keep, hold onto etc. With Universal love it can be for the moment and not have to expect more. I realize that is too idealistic for many to buy or understand but it is how I feel about it.

I had another wonderful excort tonight - Michelle from Evaescorts. within 2 minutes of me doing my massage routine on her she commented about my soft hands as almost every women does. I have no idea why I am lucky this way...never do dishes or do anything mechanical perhaps.

But both into the session and after - very sensual sexuality she very seriously said how amazing I was...I suspect she may say that to many men so again I don't want to sound like Gods gift, but she at the end bought up I should be teaching tehnciques to others. And told her I have with couples etc.

I also have the desire to share sensual intimacy which gives me zillions of times more satisfaction (emotional as well as physical) than the hotest sex anyone could offer. Unless I have some connection with the women, usually established early via my type of touch, I just don't get much pleasure from just great sex. I realize I may be odd, a clown or unusual...but its how I am and try and share as honestly as openly as possible to encourage others that might feel the same way if they tried it or developed good touch physical intimacy skills.

I can't help people on how to have soft hands, or a warm heart but if folks want to develop techniques I have many ideas I think can be helpful and more than willing to share so all men are enjoyed by women...especially real girlfriends...but SP are a lab sort of to test and improve my techniques.

 

[sh0rtea d0o wh0p]

Why don't I suggest you to start to show your idea by making short movie clips of your technique and post them on your website for people to see. A (movie) picture is worth a thousand words. You may even film testimonies from some recipients.

 

[armygirl]

I am NOT a porn star.

As someone else said.. you wouldn't want to see me naked...but I'm glad women don't mind!

Actually I'm use to nudity no big deal.. but a movie on sex positions...not quite up to that..

Oh yes..and I would need a woman willing to do it with me. Hard to do without a woman.

But hmmmm... if you find the woman ... that is my type...

 

[U. S. observer]

Mr DIP,

I don't think your concerns are warrnated.

Firstly, we understand that intimacy overrides everything, so your appearance is a non-issue. If the MPAs and SPs were able to enjoy your intimate touches despite your physical appearance, why shouldn't anyone else. We only wanted to watch the techniques, not you.

Secondly, either you nor your recipient need to have your face shown in the clip. At least you can have your face blurred.

Thirdly, can't you at least show some of your techniques fully clothed? If not, just don't show your face as I said. I am sure you noticed that many MP websites show clips of their attendants doing sexy moves without showing their faces.

Fourthly, finding a woman recipient. I am sure if you advertise and offer them your infamous intimate touches for free, many will volunteer. Again, look is a non issue. We only wanted to watch the technique, not her.

Go for it !

 

[Angel T]

Actually Roadrunner makes good points. I am not sure if idea was suppose to be a joke or serious.

True I can be clothed, but the women would have to be nude, especialy for Esalen massage.

I don't think finding women volunteer to be on film would be that easy.

From a practical standpoint it would have to be longer than what can realastically be downloaded on a short mpg clip on a website. And someone would have to shoot it, do sound etc.

I also prefer the live workshop for interaction, others ideas, discussion etc. I don't claim to have all the answer or be Mr. Intimate, I just know I enjoy it and seem to get a lot of sincere response - have for zillions of years.

In real life my problem is I meet women and show them massage etc and they wind up liking me too much, since most of them I am not that attracted to - typical real life overweigth women! I have to be honest and say I really only enjoy it with relatively attractive and younger (under 35?) women which is why I enjoy it so much with sexworkers realizing I have to pay to... get my hands on ...the type of physical woman I enjoy it with.

 

[frizzy-head]

DIP

Just let me re-iterate:

a picture is worth a thousand words

and take it any way you want.