Oils during IVF process ??

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Hi all,

Wanted to pick the brains of all you Aromatherapists please. As a Reflexologist i have no idea about essential oils, buthave beenasked a question by one of my clients today regarding oils during massage.

My clientis undergoing her fourth IVF course at present and is seeing a massage therapist to help with relaxation. She is worried about the use of oils in the massage ...... the therapist has been using Ylang Ylang and Sandlewood. Would either of these oils be contra~indicated during the downregulation process ??

Iseem to thinkthat Ylang Ylang can have an effect on the hormonal system, but wasn't entirely sure, and from what my client said the therapist didn't seem too sure either. I advised her perhaps it would be a good idea just to use a base oil ???

Your thoughts please .....

meridianmoon xx
 
Depending on the quality of the oils, both Sandalwood and Ylang Ylang should be safe in pregnancy, and without having taken a complete history, and so not being able to comment fully, would on the surface seem to be good choices of oils to use.
Sandalwood is both very spiritual, and very good for DNA repair, so could be a very good choice for someone receiving IVF. Ylang Ylang is good for blood pressure and balancing male & female energies. Again it is a good relaxing oil, and if your client resonates with these oils, i.e. enjoys the aroma, this would again suggest a beneficial choice of oils.

From thearomatherapists perspective,and by way of precaution, ifmassaging this client with oils without an aromatherapy background, then good practice would dictate the therapisthave anadequate inurance policy.

So to summarize, these two oils should besafe for this client.
 
Hi maceuk,

Thanks for your reply !! My question is really more to do with the oils possibly interfering with the down regulating first stage of IVF. (Sorry if i didn't make that clear !!) During this stage the body is basicallyencouraged into a state of premature menopause. Would these oils work against the drugs ??

meridianmoon xx
 
More often than not the drugs used are:
Clomid (Clomifene), Puregon (Gonaderelin), Burserelin.
and occasionally Medroxyprogesterone.

Neither Sandalwood nor Ylang Ylang should effect these drugs - as you rightly say, these drugs are all hormones.

Having said this I am unaware of any randomised controlled studies looking specifically at the effect of oils on hormones.

(Nb: even the one study looking at the adverse effect of oils in pregnancy is highly dubious when critically appraised, and overly quoted.)

If you are interested in specific studies, then the National Library for Health in Complementary and Alternative Medicine (online) [link=http://www.nelm.nhs.uk/Search/Category.aspx?id=215]http://www.nelm.nhs.uk/Search/Category.aspx?id=215[/link]has cochrane appraised trials, mostly with comments about:poor quality, Not sufficinet client numbers, Further studies required before any conclusions can be drawn.
 
Good questions...
Firstly I am amazed that there is an AT still using Sandalwood.
The tree is an endangered species. It's alternative, grown in Austrailia, is causing drought and endangering the local population. The only sustainable ethical crop is grown in Vanuatu. There was only 6th of the world's demand ethically or unethically produced last year and none the year before. This issnapped up by the multi million ยฃ perfume industry. This puts the price out of reach of sole traders!
You are quite right regarding Ylang Ylang but there are many grades produced. I wonder what grade this AT is using (II) is usual.
Finally, as no scientific research properly exists as to the effect on a foetus, oils are best left out until the final moments of labour and birth.
 
To be safe, I would encourage this client to request that her AT works at 1% blend only if she is concerned. I would work at this percentage for any client of mine trying to conceive, whether naturally or via IVF, during pregnancy and whilst breastfeeding.

I would also question whether I wanted a therapist treating me who had no idea whether the oils are contra-indicated according to my state at the time of treatment!
 
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  36. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,New First Day Young Slim Petite Sexy Thai Girl Baifern (2 days only)! Young Slim Petite Chinese Michelle, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  37. Newspring@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅNu spring spa @ sexy hot ๐Ÿ’“Vietnamese ๐ŸŒธSingapore girls working Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿš—7-15 Karachi dr Markham close Costco โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  39. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธBree๐ŸŒธFran Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Sunny is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slim,Kiki very good looking,big breasted service queen,Mina is long hair provide a very good massage with sensual touch,must come to try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  42. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the official schedule for AMORE SPA: Thursday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & YOYO CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. YOYO is slim, attractive
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  44. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  45. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Jennifer & Tracy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anita has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธEMILY, LUCY & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services.
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks open mind and young sexy Tina with curves body, sweet GFE Ella and young cute Vivian 22โ€™s are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
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