Respect our MPA's and don't rip them off!

[Athena]

I've been hearing from several of the attendants I've frequented how some clients (newbies) have either tried to rip them off or have. When I say this I mean it in many ways. Let me elaborate:

1) When the attendant asks for payment whether its in the beginning of the session or the end, the client makes an excuse as to why they don't have the money and motions to get it from their car, or go to the bank, or promises to pay them the next session.

This is ridiculous! This act of selffishness is so low that it just conjures up the thought "Die motherfucker die!" Even the LE who watches these boards is frowning on you guys!

2) When the client asks the attendant for a discount.

C'mon, this isn't a flea market!

3) When the client short changes the attendant.

If you don't think you have enough, than don't go ahead with it.

4) When the client repeatedly pushes for extra's when the attendant has firmly stated she doesn't do extra's.

Be a gentleman gentlemen!

Now there is a flip side to this. We all know well that there have been MPA's that have cheated customers as well, but I'd like to focus on this subject at the moment. As I've certainly developed a fondness for several of the beautiful women I"ve kept company with and it just infuriates me when I hear these stories happen to them.

I have an assumption that many many massageplanet.netites don't do this. But I just wish there was a way we could stop the ruffians that do. Also, I'm hoping this thread will just remind you guys that its just not cool to do any of the above.

These beautiful women have it tough enough already doing what they do. Lets not make it any harder for them. Also, it'lll just ruin the next session for the next guy.

But principally, we all have to make a living. So please let live.

 

[Cyber Ninja]

All your other points are valid.
Except this one!
You don't ask, you don't get, right?
Even your farking bank has "published" intrest rates...?! You don't pay that rate do you?
If you do, then you are foolish!
Every business, has slow times. I know mine does, so we discount at those times, simple.
Never cheat, but it's ok to bargan.

 

[I love my love]

I can see you and I are going to reflect two sides of the same coin on this issue just as Revolver and Verybadboy have on the other thread...

I certainly see your point about "bargaining" with the lady on services issued. Myself, if the price isn't right I just don't take it. Period. If she offers to lower the price on her end, well, that's on her own onus. But for me, I just don't think its classy to do that. That's just me. And its not to say your not a classy guy, its just my perspective is all.

 

[Stainton]

Good point KD. I personally always pay at the beginning of the session so there's no confusion and no misunderstanding as to what is expected (that's just me).
As for the attendants, if it's a new customer, I'm sure most ladies would ask for the money upfront just so they know what is expected on their behalf.
It's that old say'in " What goes around, comes around" , well i usually make sure it gets around for guys like these. They just make us look bad- just my 2 cents.

 

[seeme1995]

Oh gents, I concur. Once "service" has been rendered, its been renderd.You pay the terms agreed to.
However, upfront discussions are not un-classy. It's just smart.

 

[Ninni]

Unfortunately KD, people just don't give a shit.

Last night I was having dinner at East Side Mario's with my sister and friend. We were seated near the front door, and towards the end of the meal our waitress asked if we'd seen the license plate on the van parked outside our window.

It seems 3 people did a "dine and dash" on another waitress.... leaving her with a $105 bill which she'd be expected to cover...

Our waitress told me the girls generally pitch in to cover the loss....

If people don't have a problem stiffing a girl making minimum plus tips, they'd have NO problem stiffing an MPA.....

Sad but true...

 

[Lilah]

Kissingdevil, what have you done with Goodtime? Reading your post is like Deja vu!

IL, same deal with the 'gas and dash'. A gas attendent in BC was dragged underneath a car for 7 km over $13! I tend to do my gas fill-up at night, there are a few stations with 'gas-and-dash'. One time, the dasher almost ran over a pass-by pedestrian in process of dashing.

It's damn simple, Guys, if you don't pay, you don't play! Just don't trip over yourself during the dash and fall on your face in process of get-away...

 

[Woot!]

just a comment on this. Obviously, I agree that clients should not aggressively push, and anyone who physically pushes (my instinct is to say " I could rip their throat out" ) but they should be criminally charged and hopefully locked away, because it is a criminal offense.

People's idea of extras is different and in my mindset it doesn't include BJ/ FS. Although I understand the desire for seeking such extras at licensed MP's those are extras that would be "better served" by seeing an escort..

However, many of us do push the limits with regard to DATY, D/LFK, PJFF etc. Personally, I'll physically "test the waters" with gesture or seeing as I'm not exactly the most smooth of operators, I'll just come out and ask, either initially so it gets it out the way or/and [again] hint/ask at some point during the experience hoping it may yield better results. I won't "pester" as such though if I feel that is the effect I am having on her. At the risk of sounding cheesy, it's somewhat like "making out" as teenagers and trying to see what base we could get to (although I never understood the concept of "bases" ). We all have a manipulative side to some degree which isn't the same as taking advantage coz that ventures further into the realm of pathetic. However, as long as we aren't being threatening in any way, we still allow the MPA control over the situation.

I think there is a difference between this, although maybe slightly gray, and "repeatedly pushing for extras, when they have clearly stated they do not do extras"

 

[Von]

You mean ripping off MPA's doesn't make you look cool and sexy?

 

[Caterpuff]

see where thought got you.

Are you paying for bandwidth ?

You have a choice : do not read it. You also have the right to state your opinion, just as others have a choice not to listen.

 

[Slim D]

You're confusing ripping off MPA's with smoking.

 

[weddingdressesunnf]

I generally concur with what has been siad to ensure that the MPA is being treated fairly and with respect.

My only comment is on pricing. There are ways that one could negotiate with class and try for a discount. I guess that, if you become a regular and the MPA knows you well enough, then it will be give and take. This has happened to me as my MPA favs (yes, I DO have several) actually enjoy seeing me and go a bit out of their way to cheer me up! I go out of my way to remember their birthdays, if I know the dates, and to drop by once in a while with a small token of my appreciation. That is just human decency and a token of true friendship, without any intended motives.

On the other hand, let the market forces determine the price for services and pay the going rate. As some one earlier once stated, if you can't afford it, or don't agree with the price, don't ask for it. Then, if the price is too high for most, and assumed too high for what the client gets, the price will come down. Ifthe price is high, it might be a reflection on the demand and quality of that service.

Just my two-cents'-worth

 

[Isadora]

Thank God!!!

I was just about to quit seeing MPA's.

But it kind of explains the burning RJ.

 

[Glutburger]

You couldn't be more wrong. Reviews are so 2002. The massage board is now used for talking about bylaws, karaoke parties, humorus newsletters, Poolie and Racheal's relationship and treating MPA's with respect.

 

[CupCake =)]

Is passing off CT money disrespectful..... depends on how much is left behind.

 

[highperactive]

Your very welcome OJ.

I'm certainly the type of person that gives my respect first hand to someone until they give cause to lose my respect. So when I see how distraught my "friends" are after having been ripped off it really angers me. Massaging, dancing, or escorting is certainly a vulnerable profession, not only physically but emotionally as well. There is the pressure to perform, and there is the pressure to perform still even when the previous session was ruined by bad antics from the customer. I certainly see that and truly sympathize.

I for one don't like to desensitize these beautiful women as sex objects. They're people who have chosen to create something intimate with you, and many truly want to create something fantastical and memorable. I think that's special. And as a result, its why I don't usually negotiate on price. For me, when an attendant presents the price it either feels right or it doesn't. The big boy below is whispering to your ear "Oh come on Mr. She is worth at least that!" The perspective of "how much do you value this person's chemistry with you" comes in to play. Which I think is fair and respectful to consider.

Its when people place a budget on sex, that I find distasteful. Its no longer about the person but about the act. And that urge is just as demeaning to your self esteem as being hooked on crack. Its primal. Animalistic. Debase. That's when you make decisions that you may regret. No thought is put into them.

Always remember that were dealing with a "person". They have feelings. Consequences can occur. We are in control of the moments that occur. In once second you can choose to make someone smile. Or make them pout. Life is too short to create a history of bad experiences. And karma comes into play. Live a good life.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Thanks Paul ... oh, ya mean that Paul

 

[gato25]

Blah, blah, blah!!

Respect MPA's got it.

 

[Houyhnhnm]

Rusty - Love the addition to the sig pic.

 

[jd spoonworthy]

I wish Oriental Jennifer would get out of the massage section.Having her (an SP) post here feels about as natural as bowling while sober.Everyone knows that the more drunk you get, the more pins you knock down.