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Review Sofia @ Seduction

A 45min session at the spa is equivalent to a 1hr session with an agency, because the shower time is not included in the time with the MP. You shower before, you wait for them to come in, and after 45 min you have your exit shower. The main benefit is the selection of girls available and ease of scheduling. I often have a hard time booking a girl I want same-day with agency.
Do you dislike independent girls, like on leolist?
 
A 45min session at the spa is equivalent to a 1hr session with an agency, because the shower time is not included in the time with the MP. You shower before, you wait for them to come in, and after 45 min you have your exit shower. The main benefit is the selection of girls available and ease of scheduling. I often have a hard time booking a girl I want same-day with agency.

It might be true in theory that you'll be in the massage room for an hour if you paid for a 45 minute session, but it seems like a tremendous amount of women on the massage side of the biz are unaware shower time should not be included, or much more likely they simply pretend not to know...

If you pay for a 45 minute session and actually get 45 minutes of fun time and no lame, time-wasting massage before she is pressuring you to finish and / or rushing you into the shower, then yeah you have at least met the baseline requirements for a good session. But in practice girls try to cut corners on this obligation to provide a good time for the full time in a million ways.

If you know who to see you'll get a complete session, but most girls just want to get you in and out as quickly as possible and don't care how much time you've purchased. The quicker you're out of there the quicker they can be on their phone, having a smoke, getting high, or onto the next client, which is usually great by most spas since it's more $ for the girl and more $ for the spa.

Most men don't want to make a scene in a spa when they get their time cut short and rushed out of the room, and the girls take full advantage of guys who prefer not to fight with a naked woman who they want to get off with...
 
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It might be true in theory that you'll be in the massage room for an hour if you paid for a 45 minute session, but it seems like a tremendous amount of women on the massage side of the biz are unaware shower time should not be included, or much more likely they simply pretend not to know...

If you pay for a 45 minute session and actually get 45 minutes of fun time and no lame, time-wasting massage before she is pressuring you to finish and / or rushing you into the shower, then yeah you have at least met the baseline requirements for a good session. But in practice girls try to cut corners on this obligation to provide a good time for the full time in a million ways.

If you know who to see you'll get a complete session, but most girls just want to get you in and out as quickly as possible and don't care how much time you've purchased. The quicker you're out of there the quicker they can be on their phone, having a smoke, getting high, or onto the next client, which is usually great by most spas since it's more $ for the girl and more $ for the spa.

Most men don't want to make a scene in a spa when they get their time cut short and rushed out of the room, and the girls take full advantage of guys who prefer not to fight with a naked woman who they want to get off with...

Are you saying the final shower should NOT be counted in your time?
 
Are you saying the final shower should NOT be counted in your time?

Yes. Neither the beginning or ending shower are supposed be included in your paid time in most higher end body rubs, but a lot of people don't know that because so many massage girls include showers in the paid time regardless, and often even cut the session time short beyond that as well.

314156 is saying that a 45 minute session at a spa is equivalent to an hour session with an escort because your showers with an SP are included as part of the paid time, but since showers are not supposed to be included in your 45 minute spa time that effectively equals an hour in the room at the spa anyways.

Maybe that happens with quality girls you know and trust, but I find a lot of girls do everything possible to reduce both the total time in the room, as well as minimizing the time doing anything pleasurable you are hoping to actually get for the considerable amount of money you spend just to get in the room.

From what 314156 is saying if you book a 45 minute appointment you should be in the room for about an hour and won't start your shower until after you've had 45 minutes of fun time with your attendant.

That's the sales pitch, but the reality is rather different, to say the least...
 
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Yes. Shower time (before and after the fun) should not be included in the time you paid for at the spa's. Though there are many girls - mostly from what I've noticed on reviews and personal experience from Seduction the newer girls tend to count shower time,and rush. but they shouldn't be... I've had a couple sessions in the past where I paid for 30 mins and was back in my car at the 20 to 25 min mark and this is including time spent in the shower. When brought up to manager at front - all they said was that they will bring it up to the girls to not rush the session next time. No apologies or any fucks given....this happened 2 times when I decided to toftt and I didn't press with either the mpa or manager as the session wasn't that great to begin with.
This is one of the reasons from being a weekly regular there I haven't been back there in a while, I'm actually starting to prefer the lower milage sessions at Flirt Finch.
 
So is Seduction worth it? The girls rush and cut times, management/girls don't really care, they have you pay the hefty fees and then extras afterwards..
I get the selection is great but it seems that places like Classic Spa are better. Or am I wrong? My sessions at CS have been to pay the room fee upfront and then the attendant afterwards (though the ymmv concept plays there). I don't think CS girls cut for showers. I'm really interested if independent girls do these

How was Sofia regarding these things?
 
Yes. Shower time (before and after the fun) should not be included in the time you paid for at the spa's. Though there are many girls - mostly from what I've noticed on reviews and personal experience from Seduction the newer girls tend to count shower time,and rush. but they shouldn't be... I've had a couple sessions in the past where I paid for 30 mins and was back in my car at the 20 to 25 min mark and this is including time spent in the shower. When brought up to manager at front - all they said was that they will bring it up to the girls to not rush the session next time. No apologies or any fucks given....this happened 2 times when I decided to toftt and I didn't press with either the mpa or manager as the session wasn't that great to begin with.
This is one of the reasons from being a weekly regular there I haven't been back there in a while, I'm actually starting to prefer the lower milage sessions at Flirt Finch.

Likely there's nothing in it for them to give a fuck from their perspective. They already have your money, and the faster you're out the door the sooner they can get their next door fee... ka-ching!
 
Dont know what you guys are talking about.
Never had a issue with girls cutting my time short at seduction. I pay for 45min I get 45min .

Pay the front for your session
Pay the girl her tips for extras

If your a arrogant asshole in the room. Then yeah she would want you to hurry up.
 
Likely there's nothing in it for them to give a fuck from their perspective. They already have your money, and the faster you're out the door the sooner they can get their next door fee... ka-ching!
That's just it... alot of the girls dont care as they think they will get by on random walk-ins based on looks and don't care about providing a good session to build regulars.
But for the spa - they should as it sours the taste we have toward the spa for allowing the girls to take advantage of the time
 
Dont know what you guys are talking about.
Never had a issue with girls cutting my time short at seduction. I pay for 45min I get 45min .

Pay the front for your session
Pay the girl her tips for extras

If your a arrogant asshole in the room. Then yeah she would want you to hurry up.

I mostly always receive the higher end of YMMV. Never an asshole with the girls, and have gone over time with other MPAs and gotten some freebies in terms of extras here and there where they refused the tip for extras.

I didn't argue or complain the times where I was shorted time - just mentioned it to the manager at front desk before leaving.. didn't really find it a point to. Maybe it was an off day for those MPAs or they generally are in the wrong line of work and bad at their jobs.
 
I mostly always receive the higher end of YMMV. Never an asshole with the girls, and have gone over time with other MPAs and gotten some freebies in terms of extras here and there where they refused the tip for extras.

I didn't argue or complain the times where I was shorted time - just mentioned it to the manager at front desk before leaving.. didn't really find it a point to. Maybe it was an off day for those MPAs or they generally are in the wrong line of work and bad at their jobs.

Same here. Always go out of my way to be polite, friendly, gentle, and respectful. I have incredible sessions with all my favourites and always make sure they're well looked after.

I'm even really nice to the girls who cut my sessions short... I just never see them again.
 
Dont know what you guys are talking about.
Never had a issue with girls cutting my time short at seduction. I pay for 45min I get 45min .

Pay the front for your session
Pay the girl her tips for extras

If your a arrogant asshole in the room. Then yeah she would want you to hurry up.

Well there you have it! If you've ever had a short timed, rushed session now you know the reason why: It's because YOU were an arrogant asshole! Simple.
 
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Not just her eyebrows are applied with a spatula, all her makeup looks like it was applied while looking in a funhouse mirror!
Yeah. A face reveal is nice to see. And she looks good. But aside from the eyelashes and eyebrows, I would like to see a more natural look. Most guys I've talked to since I was a teenager, would rather prefer a natural look, but most girls don't think that way.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐•„๐”ธ๐• ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ MAY 8th , WEDNESDAY ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 6๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• TINA ๐ŸŒนSOPHIE ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• RICA ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• HANNAH ๐ŸŒน ERICA ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐Ÿ†• RICA & ๐Ÿ†• HANNAH & ERICA & ๐Ÿ†• TINA & SOPHIE โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
  28. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡New First Day Young Slim Sexy Vietnamese Lisa. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel & Young Sexy Chinese Abie. 6 Young Sexy Girls in right now!
  29. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Good service Asian girl Yuki today
  30. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699 We have 5 young girls for your enjoyment Tuesday . Judy - well proportioned model to bring toe curling fun Rina - petite beauty ready to rock your world Lucy- tall leggy beauty with nice figure Barbie - busty beauty with nice toes and services ๐Ÿ’‹new white Ana๐Ÿ’‹
  31. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, SANA, ANGEL, PAYAL PEARL, ANAYA, AAVI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  32. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡New First Day Young Slim Sexy Vietnamese Lisa. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel.
  33. Maplewood69:
    One spa
  34. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reynaella wellness, address: 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-470-8082
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    SPARKLING SPA WITH NEW GIRLS AND NEW MANAGEMENT HAS SUPER SEXY GIRLS WAITING TO BLOW YOU AWAY!! Japanese Chanel and Shanghai girl Jennifer working today โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
  36. Lily Spa:
    b]โค๏ธ SANA, SARIKA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธTable shower ๐Ÿšฟ body scrub ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘have 4 girls ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜2 new girls Lucy.Vicy.so nice sexy girl very good service ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Cici and Helen Deep tissue massage ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  38. SunriseRH:
    TUESDAY at SUNRISE SPA: HELEN, SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-325-8086 โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 Lbs. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5โ€™6โ€ & 120Lbs
  39. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, SANA, ANGEL, PAYAL PEARL, ANAYA, AAVI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  40. NewOriental:
    TUESDAY at NEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY, MICHELLE & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5โ€™2โ€ & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. VIVIAN is a pretty and very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5โ€™7โ€ tall
  41. GoldenFlower:
    TUESDAY at ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒปGOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Monica, Nancy(to 8pm), Sherry &Sonia. After 8pm: Mimi
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting to
  43. ASPA:
    ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ CHERRY is a Vietnamese beauty, standing 1.62Cm tall & weighing 50Kg, with a nice 32C bust size. She is a sexy and charming lady with excellent service. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5โ€™4โ€ tall with nice responsive 34Cโ€™s and a captivating smooth rounded
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Cindy, Eva & Helen. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Eva is young, slim, innocent & demure looks, but donโ€™t let her innocent looks deceive. She can massage & service very well.
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Luna๐Ÿ˜ is beautiful part time student, and has very sexy body, and so cute. 34C breasts on a tiny tight little spinner body. Luna is your Asian university sweetheart willing to learn anything you can teach her. She is very tight! She can
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Cindy , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sara,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massageSherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Mimi , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡New First Day Young Slim Sexy Vietnamese Lisa. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel.
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Mia 25 years old and young sweet fun Ivy with curve body, sexy Coco and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
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