Customer Etiquette

[ADEE]

Whether it's her time of the month or other reasons. Its none of our business!

If it is for other reasons, in MP biz, it takes more courage to keep clothes on! Think about it: reduce income, massageplanet.net bashing, etc.

Don't bother with the detective work.

Civic82, you are not worthy to see ***** ! Don't bother any of the K-girls if you have just one thing in mind. For that matter, I don't know of many women that want to subject herself to your 30 mins probing. I really hope you don't treat your woman this way, if that's all you are obsess with.

There are so many other ways to enjoy the company of a fine woman.

Some people obviously don't have any respect. To post and repeatedly harp on this. Grow up, its annoying. Civic82, you don't understand me as you have no appreciation for women. Whether its her time of the month or not, its her business, not ours!

And we wonder why girls (dancer and MPA included) hate massageplanet.net. Like gossiping around the locker room. Hey, did you hear girl Y never kissed a guy before. How would you feel if I tell everyone Civic82 has a small dick. To be fair, Goodtime may have a small dick. Who cares? Relax and enjoy.

You are forgetting. You are in their domain. Let the MPA guide you. You will have more fun that way. If a service is not offered, smart MPAs will know how to please you. There are reasons Top MPAs got to where they are and with strong following.

Some guys here need attitude adjustment training. Learn to relax and live a little.

My most memorable sessions have been, let me give you a hint, clothing ON! Effects last for days when your mind is spiritually stimulated. Just like sex is not just penetration (NOT OFFERED @ S9 or other MP - only mentioned for matter of reference). Young guys don't realize the brain is the largest sex organ, only then will one understand what Goodtime is all about.

 

[spartanburgreat]

I have to agree with Goodtime. If it bothers you that much, go see somebody else. Personally, I have always enjoyed my sessions with Candy immensely and whether or not it was her time of the month has never been an issue.

 

[Girl]

Goodtime,

I agree with you that to harp on it is silly and inappropriate, and I may have helped perpetuate it with my penchant toward being a silly billy. I do feel uncomfortable to a degree discussing it openly in relation to a specific MPA, because it is personal, which is why I try to talk in general terms. However, with the up-most of respect, I have to disagree, in that, if it effects the service we are seeking visually [or physically], it is our business.

Certainly there are other ways to enjoy a session, but not everyone can afford the luxury of being able to pursue a variety of different levels of "intimacy" by visiting different MPAs or coming back the following week.

Like I've stated before, somewhere or other, MPAs should advise clients in advance, so that they can make an informed decision and if they wish, choose another MPA. That takes courage and shows respect for the client. It goes both ways. As I've mentioned before, I've had an MPA "warn" me and I continued anyway, knowing her to be creative, but even in that case she didn't keep the panties on. The irony in this is that I prefer MPA's to keep on the panties initially, but I digress as usual.

I mean technically you really can't offer a BS, NR or N under such conditions, because the accepted expectation is that the MPA will be visibly nude, regardless of other expectations.

All civic is saying is that he would like to know his options in advance. I don't think his intention is to be disrespectful.

Aside from that, I agree with the essence of your post [although I can't comment on dick size], but if an MPA is flowing, we should be able to choose the direction of our flow.

*as the sound of 'Nothing Like The Sun' by String [sic] drifts through the air*



I hope goodtime [or anybody else] doesn't mind - I took the liberty of splitting this into a new thread and locking the old one [for now] because I feel we have harped on the specific MPA more than enough and think it's a topic of some value in itself.

continued from here

 

[Sassy Shih Tzu]

I just think that the lady should tell you at the outset so that you can make an informed decision.

I guess , for the same reason, you should tell the lady if your ass stinks, so that she can make an informed decision whether or not to see you.

 

[Pompal 09.]

We should be that luckly Sorely!

 

[GRACE Q]

Considering all massageplanet.netites [or as we are now referred to; BSMBBites] shower thoroughly immediately prior to the session this shouldn't be a problem, right ?

This whole thing begs the question, whether a client would prefer to know that an MPA is [as the say] "on da rag", or if he'd rather she hide it ( ie plug it, use feminine wipes and/or whatever other tricks they have up their skirts ) and not inform them at all. As in, what ya don't know won't hurt ya [if indeed you aren't OK with a little mother nature]

Or would he rather know, but have her minimise the fact she is on it ( ie see above ) so that the client and MPA can determine their personal comfort boundaries.

Not that we really have any choice in the matter : ) ... either way she can still be sexy and perform the basic "requirements" of her job - even though, it being that time, she may not always feel so sexy ... although she may be more horny

 

[crissysmith4u]

The K-girl in question is one of my favourites and I wondered how much the thread about her period is pissing her off. It's kinda goofy talking about someone's cycles and the dates that it falls on. It must make her feel like we are imposing on her privacy.

BUT I have to go against Goodtime here. I feel that you are looking at things only from the MPA's point of view. So to be fair here is my opinion from a customer's point of view.

I have had sessions before with certain MPAs where they offered me a BS and after the session had started, they tell me that they are on their period and that they can't remove all undies. I'm not about to change my mind in the middle of the session and opt for a topless so I ended up paying for a topless/psudo BS. I was not happy with the session.

If you are having your period, don't offer more than a topless. Or even better take the week off. I know that MPAs have bills to pay, but we are spending our hard earned cash for these massages. Be honest and let your clients know before the session starts or give the option of backing out. A simple gesture of honesty may be enough to take away the feeling of being cheated.

Also, maybe I'm a bit more primative, but I prefer my MPAs without their clothes on. They just look so damn beautiful when they are wearing less. That's why I go for the BS option.

If my most memorable sessions were when the MPAs were fully clothed, I would not take any options. The poor MPA would end up making only $10 for the session. I doubt that any MPA want that to happen. My guess would be that every MPA wants their client to have their most memorable sessions during their most expensive option.

I'm begining to babble again so let me get to the point.

If an MPA is willing to accept payment for a BS option during her period, we have the right to keep records of her cycles so that we can avoid it. I think this is a better option than not going back to see her again.

It's like this. If you go to McD's and pay for a Mac combo, how would you feel if they are willing to accept the cash but will not give you fries because they are out of fries. If you can't offer the fries, just sell me the Mac and Drink!!

 

[rockability]

Yes, there's a question of honesty in that certain "extras" have to be avoided.

I remember one MPA telling me:

"Sorry, no candy for you this week..."

ER...UM... You figure it out ! LOL

However, as "Gentlemen" I'd like to think we wouldn't let a NATURAL biological function get in the way of having fun with our favourite MPA's.

I'm sure those special gals have many interesting and amusing ways of keeping us entertained...

... and "that time" won't affect such things as teasing, conversation & affection which to me are just as important, if not more so.

Usually I'm just happy for my regular's company

 

[FoulgeVossess]

Before I respond to everybody's comments. Let me tell you a little about my routine before I pay a visit to MPA. I think everybody does this so I don't see this being any different than anyone......
I take a shower BEFORE I head to any MP and I usually take another one there. I particularly would clean my feet AND private area with whatever soap they provide. It's not that I sweat a lot but I'd never want any MPA to get any sense of body odour out of me.
I DO have a few spots of dry skin from my psoriasis condition (OK, maybe this part is not too routine to all). They are not very bad but the affected area DO catch many MPA's attention. I will tell them in advance that they are not contagious in any way AND if they choose not to touch those spots, I am ABSOLUTELY cool with it. DAMN, I have pretty much given my identity out so the next time any MPA who has read this should know who I am.
What I am trying to say is that I respect everyone in this profession. Hell, I dated one seven years ago. There is a Chinese saying, " you laugh at the poor but you don't laugh at the people with a poor job ".....Actually, any Chinese massageplanet.netites here would know what " people with a poor job " really mean but I don't want to start another wave of discussion again.
Whether an MPA is on her Kotex moment does no bother me one bit. In fact, I don't even want to know. This is actually the first time I was told by an MPA that she is "on it". Maybe I didn't explain myself clearly but she actually told me AFTER I opted for the BS menu. On top of that, I had a "great", I repeat.............. "GREAT" time with Candy even with her panties on. It was one of the most memorable session. Definately my top 5, I would say.
Maybe for me re-iterating to have someone go & see if she is still having her Kotex moment went a little overboard. But hey, if I see a THIRD post with the same comments, do you think I would post something or not? Hell yeah I would. That's something we should be aware of.
Also FYI, due to financial constraints, my earlier years to MP's were merely with the older EE's without any extras & they were still very good sessions. The good old Healing Hands, Riviera, remembered? They had a few older EE's with killer teasing skills and I have enjoyed those many times.
So for those who had defended me, notably Pool/Flyingdgn, a BIG thank you. Flyingdgn, your anology about McDonald's McDeal couldn't be more appropriate. For those who misunderstood me, notably Goodtime, it's all good. Being misunderstood has been the story of my life ( get it??? ;p ). I was just trying to point out something. It's unfortunate it involved her period. I would have pointed it out exactly the same if it's a BS session with the bra on because her nipples are sensitive. OK, is this making more sense now?

GT, no need to call me small dick. I really wasn't expecting a personal attack from you. You have been more than good reading material from all the posts you've written and I have always enjoyed your ideas. However, I have no choice now but to downgrade you to JUST good reading material.

civic82

 

[WindMiller]

I guess I babbled earlier. Everyone is entitled to express their opinions but NOT repeatedly target a person, over and over again. It's plain rude!

To keep posting when mother nature calls and encourage others to post the info of a particular MPA, imo, that poster lacks respect. It's invasion of privacy.

Sure, we all have in our mind what may take place in upcoming sessions. My point is loosen up, if you don't get what you hope for, the alternative may be a better reward. Don't knock it until you try it.

The earlier post gives me the mental picture that client X, like back in the days of high school, couldn't get date from MPA Y, so he tells everyone she was easy. And make a mission of it. Damn, now he got me doing it. Ok, time for us to get along.

Flyindgn, the clothing part translates to lace bra and panties, nothing sweeter than a sexy woman.

 

[Blurcelve]

This kept freaking me out ... I thought it was my eyes playing tricks on me with the different coloured text, but no matter what angle I looked at the screen it still seemed to only be certain words ... yeah, it's late.

Bigtime, goodtime ! I couldn't agree more, which is ironic given the discussion. Great minds think alike and fools ... well ... you know ... gwailo expression : )

 

[Cjac]

My comment was to give you boys an idea how it feels to be on the receiving end. As I seen the TEARS and ANGER behind the insensitive reviews.

Ever see a woman beats her chest so hard from the anger, that you are sure she cracked some of her ribs? One MPA not long ago, had to leave the biz to get over an uncalled for comment from a well-respected poster here.

There are hearts and emotions behind these wonderful ladies. Why add unnecessary pressure/stress to this job?

You will noticed that the next sentense after my comment was "Goodtime may have small dick". I am prepared to take what I dish out. It is uncharacteristic of me to resort to personal attack. Now that I got your attention.

I understand what you are trying to do, but: a) open forum may not be the means to compare personal notes of MPAs. b) repeatedly discuss such personal info is impolite and lack respect, imo.

I'm a peaceful person but I will fight for what's unfair and unjust. As you admitted you "may have gone overboard", we got your point the first time, no need to keep repeating it. If you intend is to drive certain MPA out of biz, I have a problem with that.

In the real world, it's call harassment. Just because we paid money, doesn't mean we have the right to REPEATEDLY criticize someone to the n-th degree!

Ok, I think we both got that off our chests. Time to go back to MP?

 

[Kira]

Gentlemen,

Interesting discussion. I can understand the frustration that
both parties (client & mpa) could experience in this situation.
Believe me, mpa'a do not enjoy working when they have their
period either. We do not have a choice. It's not that black
and white. Spa's have a difficult time enough with scheduling,
and no-shows, and sick days, anger days, and depressed days with
mpa's. Creating a schedule for anywhere from 15-30 girls with
different shift requirements, and flexibility, and different
variety of girls is very difficult. Ask any owner. MPA's cannot
create a schedule around their period. Owner's would never
ask you to make a "period timetable" for your shifts. Now,
whether your fav mpa decides to only do certain sessions during
her period is a different story. That's her choice.


Do you have any idea how much time loss is involved with 20 girls losing 1 week a month due to her period. What if 6 girls have their peroid at the same time? What if 2 mpa's period's are late, and didn't arrive on time? What if her period is longer than usual?
What if due to stress, she misses her period that month?
If it's a concern to you about your mpa's time of the month,
then by all means, try to track it. But don't be suprised if
you do not have much success. It can be very difficult to time.
It comes early, it comes late, it doesn't show up. It's like
the f**king TTC. LOL.

But I can totally understand the frustration of getting a bodyslide with the panties on. I am a diplomat, and I can see both sides of the issue. Some customers want the same service each and every time. No exceptions. It just depends on the kind of person you are, and really, about your views of how your dollar is spent. This is apparent in every industry. When a photo shop offers pictures in an hour, some people expect it in an hour. Not in an hour and a half. They are paying for their pictures to be ready in 1 hour. If they are not ready, then it's not the service you paid for. Others couldn't care less, they will come back in half an hour. "No problem" they say. Some people like to get worked up over details and some do not. Luckily we live in a free country, and we can conduct ourselves as we please.

Not every man is like Goodtime.
It's a beautiful thing for a man to be able to make alternatives
and use the other wonderful parts that our creator gave us. Like
the mind. But everyone has a choice of how they want to spend
their money, where, and with whom. I could make the same
reference when my regular says at the end of the session, "Sorry,
but I'm $20 short today". It's bothersome, but not something
that I get flustered about. So he's short sometimes before his
payday, I'm not going to track his salary or the days that he
was short. Obviously, he returns the money on his next visit, just as the mpa would resume her normal sessions. If the situation kept happening without resuming a normal session, then
you decide not to see that person anymore. Simple as that.
There are more customers who do not care about the "period
situation" than there is who do. Especially if it is a customer
that genuinly like's you and enjoys spending time with you regardless of the "kind of session" it is.

 

[ctopher]

What if the 12 girls working at a particular spa wind up synchronizing their periods?

That has been known to happen in households if not actually at spas...

 

[execglenn]

I'm probably gonna regret this post but what the heck, speaking your mind is one of the great things about massageplanet.net.

We have to remember that at the end of the day this is a business. Getting so emotionally envolved in the way an MPA feels is not a good idea for either parties.

When a client sees an MPA, they should know that what they do just a job. It's not real. It's just a temporary illusion. When massageplanet.netites start posting about how mechanical and fake their sessions were, it makes me wonder what the heck they were expecting. People falling in love with MPAs (I'm talking about the one sided love here and not a romantic relationship) and people stalking MPAs. These are things that clients do because of their emotional expectations. I think this is wrong. It's just business and clients have to keep that in mind when they start getting emotional about their perceptions towards an MPA. I believe that this is what an MPA wants and needs to keep them safe.

Now, about MPAs that start getting emotional about their reviews. I know that they are only human and certain comments can hurt them. I've been there as well when they get frustrated and cry because of their reviews. Not all reviews are fair and sometimes can be unnecessairly nasty, but they should take these comments constructively and try to be a better MPA. If they can't handle the stress, it may be a good thing to leave the business and get on to another career. MPAs have the potential to make really good money. I consider it a very high paying job. I also think that they deserve every penny for all the stress and bull shit that they have to go through. Being an MPA is not just about being naked in the room with a client but much more. It takes a strong person with a good perspective on life to be a successful MPA. One of these qualities is being emotionally distant from your reviews. Comments on massageplanet.net is nothing to beat your chest over.

Now to clear up a few things.

The MPA in question will always be one of my favs, period or no period. She is one of the most beautiful women I have ever met, mostly because of her personality. She can make a session so sexy and at the same time be funny. All through both threads I can see most people praising her and backing the fact that she really is a great MPA.

Lace panties and bra.... Nothing sexier than than a woman looking hot and tempting hinting about what is hidden. I love it too. But in the end, I do want to see them naked. As much as a bra and panties makes a woman sexy, the real sexy comes from the woman.

I want to go back to one point. This is about an MPA being honest about a session. Let me know before the session starts about what the situation is. It's not the period that bothers me, it the feeling of being cheated that I don't like. Once the trust factor is broken, the mood of the session goes down hill.

 

[Chance M]

Exactly.

 

[Pam R]

I am cool with that!


ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY, that's exactly what I have in mind.

 

[Freda]

Not too long ago, I saw a lady at an MP with whom I had a nice time during the previous session. Before we began, she explicitly stated that it was her time of the month and intimated that if I wanted to cancel, she would be OK with this. I went ahead and was pleased with the extra service provided in lieu of what transpired during the prior visit. Bottom line: A good MP lady should be able to provide good service, period or not. Nevertheless, it's nice to be made aware of the situation.

 

[mynameisqiana]

How exactly is this a question of being honest? Did she lie in some way? There are many ways to perform a BS even when a girl is on her period. A little imagination can go a long way.

Most MPA's do not tell you ahead of time if they are on their period. And if they don't tell you that's still not being dishonest. In all the years I've been going to MP's and who knows how many I have seen I can only recall one that told me before the session started. She gave me the option to switch and I chose not to. Lots of times I've encountered girls in this situation and managed to deal with it and have a good time.

I've seen Candy several times and always had a good time. She seemed to try hard to make sure I had a good time. I'm sure she felt she could as well in her situation at the time as many other girls would also.

Why would a girl tell you ahead of time anyway. They are there to make money and don't always have the option of taking a week off every month.

 

[Gareth]

That's an understatement ... heheh ... although I am way more reserved in person.

I'll try and get back to you tomorrow, if I can condense it to Cole's notes flavour.

flyingdgn, I'm not sure how that would be possible given that RS is an
MPA and ... uuuh ... hey ! ... I wonder if I'd get advance notice : )