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Well, if you are being more flexible with the services that you offer for a given price, then in fact you are reducing the rates. Also, as conditions in your work environment change, you seem to change your rates. So, then why are you so adament about not changing the price when in fact, you do?
 
I'm an optimist so I am hoping MPAsquared = brick shit house.
 
That is a load of garbage...open the back of the NOW mag, you can find any service at any price range. If that were true this industry would have standardized pricing. You pay more at certain places because of the level of service. There wouldnt be a difference from an Allure/SRM/HFH and your $40 Yonge St MP...UGH!
 
MPA,

First, just an observation. Everybody who works in this industry seems as though they're the most ambitious girl I've meet. If you ever have a brief chat with a stripper, they tell you about how their saving for a home or using the money to pay off school. I remember one telling me that she was saving up for med school. After you hear it so many times, you start to think some of this stuff is BS, and then you see them leave work in designer jeans, purses and glasses which all but confirms your opinion.

Anyways, you seem to have a lot of goals and ambitions for yourself which is great. Also, you've done a lot of good for yourself, which is even better. But don't ever worry that your future goals can be comprised by being in this business?
 
And apparently that rate is open to fluctuation....

Dont like it? Then find something else to do
 
True. GM and other Autoworkers are already paid 50% more than they deserve plus they have massive pensions to boot. I bet most line workers did not or could not graduate high school and they make $80K a year or more. But I guess when you have a mind numbing job you need additional finanncial compensation... but that's enough about under worked over paid autoworkers.
 
From my experience, there seems to standard price differentiated only by the quality of the parlour. Basically the top end spas charge a certain price range (Allure, Platinum, SRM and HFH). Then there are the smaller places scattered across the GTA that charge at certain price point (Star, Lexa, Plush, Bliss etc) and finally there are the hole in the wall type of places that hire foreigners and bascially offer you a HJ for $40. So, it really is the owners of theese establishments that set the prices and not the girls. If the owners change this price standard, there competitors may have to follow.
 
WOW a girl goes out Sat nite and misses alot of drama! Its like Y&R up in here!!

I want to say one thing about our potential/decission to become an MPA...ITS A STEPPING STONE! Most MPA's dont ONLY massage. Makes Law School easier to pay for. Or supports that business venture she wants. Or pays medical bills, or feeds the starving artist. we dont decide to become MPA's as a career option!! My potential is far beyond a rub 'n tug! And I live up to my potential!! To say that we are doing this because we cant do better is just down right insulting!!

Anyway, Im up for the kiss and makeup theory...as long as you are all good kissers!!
 
How is it open to fluctuation? Will you guys be so accepting the next time you're overcharged?
 
But why??? As someone pointed out, more for less is an accepted business practice in so many professions where there are people with so much more education/skills etc employed?
 
You missed my point.....but I'm not surprised
 
GO DISTURBIA GO! You are quickly moving to massageplanet.net's Finest in my eyes...!!! Im very pleased to hear this. Not many would have the guts to call out someone's bs...impressive Sire!



line worker, auto worker, or MPA...its as mind numbing as you let it...if you enter mindless, you cant expect stimulation.
 
Your story brings tears to my eyes. Good for you Disturbia, you came to the land of opportunity and you are living your dream. However, all this success has not helped you gain one bit of common sense. No, in fact, you can not even grasp the topic of this discussion just like MPA2.

As to what you are trying to say in your post...
 
Dear Princess, not sure if I said something that made me looked like an ASS in your eyes but I always say things the way I see them.

Being truthful is one thing that I can never ever live without. During war of words, either in my real life or virtual world of massageplanet.net, including a senseless thread such as this one , I'd still prefer to look like an ASS than a ASS Kiss ... by separating facts from fictions.
 
OK, I'm going to step into this one very carefully, because I do respect MP2 and Lynn, and I do not want to be a jerk like a few of you here.

I am a strong advocate of two things in this industry:
a) Supply and demand dictates this industry, and not all customers are the same, and not all girls need the same demand.

b) MP's need set prices, and I do not negotiate them. I choose not to go if I don't like it.

Now I do take "offence", and I highlight "offence" as it not meant to be a strong comment, to MPA's suggesting this will forever be there value, and it should never go down.

I am not talking about discounts... I am talking about spa wide decreases, which has been suggested to be humiliating in a way. That a decrease in the price of this service should not happen because what you offer is somewhat different. Personally, despite being well paid, I didn't get a raise for next year, or much of a bonus,,, I didn't take it as a major insult... just a sign of the times.

We are living in a world of great uncertainty.... in a world where the wealthier gentleman are getting less or no bonuses... in a world where there are no pay raises for next year... or even pay cuts... or even worse people with once great jobs or average jobs becoming unemployed. And that is only salaried workers. Owners and commission based jobs are also likely to take hits.

Now to be clear I am not saying that an MPA should be giving discounts to client that ask for it at all.

And I'm also not suggesting that MP's must lower there prices.... if the demand from customers stays relatively stable, then in no way should they lower the market. Too bad for the customers who have fell on hard times and can't afford the luxury. MPA's should not be responsible to help the unfortunate. I think this is all fairly obvious.

But I think you are being a little misguided in not realizing that a massive demand change could well be coming... and if its coming its going to come hard. This industry has no period as a basis for comparison... there has not been a recession like this in any of the time that Lynn or MP2 have worked. This is an addictive industry... once you start cutting back a bit, it becomes very easy to cut back alot. Newcomers will have a very hard time competing. Business will go down. It is likely with price stability, may come mileage pressure caused by other girls at the spas, in order to retain clients.

Its a pretty dire picture, but its possible that no changes will need to be made. I guess the first thing that will need to be assessed is how elastic this market is... while I may not be fairly discriminatory between $80 and $100 there certainly are some guys on this board that appear to be. What is better - 5 clients at $80 or 3 guys at $100... or is the market even that elastic. And this elasticity will be affected by the increasing supply of SP's that will come in during recessinary time, causing downward prices in those services.

Spas, along with there MPA's, are going to need to be creative in how to get business up. MPA's need to at least go into the next period with an open mind that creative changes or a price decrease may be necessary, and not feel that is insulting

As someone who is somewhat intrigued "AND SADLY SO" by this business, it will be interesting to see how spas react to this. Some very tough decisions
- Maybe they do nothing, as they deem the market as very unelastic. Maybe they conclude Price decreases will not result in an offsetting demand increase, which may be the case.

- Will the MPA's go along with a price decrease. This could be an issue as the deviation in how busy individual girls accross a spa is likely to go up. Will spas denote "A" girls or "B" girls with set prices, and where each girl has her choice to go into the category she wants too. Maybe new girls go on the lower price scale. Would this be too political? Maybe, but it will give each girl a choice at creating demand for themselves, and the girls with established regulars who feels confident in her abilitities to stay at her old price.

- Perhaps extra time is the way to go. Add an extra 10 minutes accross the board. Your likely going to be less busy anyway.

- Maybe 10 minutes of more casual time before the session at no charge, where you can have a drink and chat with the spa.

- Or perhaps the cost of the service goes down $10-$20 accross the board.

- Or maybe they do nothing, and don't even discuss the alternatives, because no one wants to think of themselves as being worth "less".

That was too many words, lol.
 
No they wouldnt, they simply fall into a new category.
 
For me the MP scene is taking the route of the SC (strip club) scene that many of us started with. When lap dancing started to become widely popular, I was there often and saw many girls with a few favorites. After time the new girls became so lack luster and I found myself only with the few girls that I frequented. To make a long story short, I tried a few MP's (about 12yrs ago) and realized the $ value was better at there (conversation, experience, safety and fun), and I don't even go to SP's anymore, especially with the prices of drinks (only for a stag I will go, but that is still boring for me!). Also, the lack of safety, conversation & fun part is why the SP provider scene isnot really for me.
Currently, I find that many of the new girls lack conversation, experience & fun. The BS has now become the leg slide or 2 sec breast slide at best and all (not a few) of the "new" girls have become extremely sensitive in key areas . Now, I only go to my few favorites who've been around for a few years, and if it continues will be the end for me.
This is not to say the services needs to increase or the $ needs to decreased, but good overall service from many need to be had.

FYI, I'm a Star/Lexa Studio guy, been to SRM and many of the "high end" spas and it doesn't matter to me how much the room looks like a posh/fancy room, but when you are on the table all that matters is what is going on there!

My 2 cents, and if it continues the way it is, it might be the last for awhile.
 
Its open to fluctuation because it happens all the time??!?!?

Hey... a girl could be fine giving a discount...just like a guy could be happy giving some extravagant tip.

it all goes back what your comfortable with...and you always have the choice to refuse
 
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    ๐Ÿซฆ Sasa & New Girl Anna are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿซฆ Sasa is Young Pretty Chinese Girl ๐Ÿ’„ Anna is a Beautiful & Petite Young Chinese Girl๐Ÿ’„ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  31. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian Turkish girl in Friday and Saturday
  32. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Slim Sexy Chinese Jenny, Part time Sexy Curvy Indian Sarah(8:30pm-11pm), Slim Petite Chinese Vivi
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  34. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa@ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅCanadian โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅMalaysia โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅKoreanโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅgirls working at markham 416-669-8508๐Ÿš—7-15 Karachi dr Markham close Costco ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  35. SL West:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Freedom Friday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Aaliyah, Tina, Coco, Cici, JPN Yui, Super Happy, Echo, Selena & Dorisโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธJazmin๐ŸŒธAletta Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธMei๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)best massage in vaughan,if you need to find a comfortable place to revive your body rexlaing come visit us.๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Jessica C cup,very good looking really know what do you want๐Ÿ˜ปJoey very beautiful face nice body slide,good deep tissue massage.sevrvice queen Amy she can do everything you want,must try๐Ÿ…๐Ÿท๐ŸทL6a4h8๐Ÿ“ช
  41. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla, Lily & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„ Nayla is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. ๐Ÿ˜˜ Lily is a young & Pretty Vietnamese Girl ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet slime Summer 30โ€™s and cute EFG Lina , sexy Coco and pretty Tina 30โ€™s with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North YorK
  44. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Jessica 155 cm, 90Ibs Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along Sasa Sexy Vietnamese Body Type She is very sweet Provides Excellent Customer Service Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  45. See You Health Center:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, Sexy Skinny Spinner Body โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  47. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs.
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services.
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Vicky๐ŸฅฐA new arrival at our branch ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‘ฏโ€โ™€๏ธVicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 36DD boobs
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