in love with a bargirl... big question here

But some of them are happy in the company of gay men- they feel 'safe':intello:
 
she's annoying but i do like her music
i would go see her show 5555
 
that's what it's all about, she dosen't want to work in a bar, sleeping with fat smelly falang, she wants you're money and you to take care of her, straight forward really.
 
OMG.. stop sweating it, take it as it comes, be careful (as much as you can) and who knows, maybe itll turn out ok. If not, what have you lost??

To answer your question, MAV did have a similar experience and after 7 months discovered his girl was, in fact, a katoey. After the initial shock he came to terms with it, set up the RTG factory and his husband is now the QC director. A happy ending.

Me? Came to LOS over a year ago for a couple of weeks, still here and still living with my gf who I met week 1. Maybe not permanent but, I live for the day.. you could do the same.

Good luck
 
I am English - Just crap at it.
If you feel hard done by, then I am sorry if I called you and Idiot.
The reason is - You are a very angry person and not listening to the help you are getting on here. People are trying to help you and you are just getting annoyed with them. Maybe becuase English is not your first language you are not understanding them. Thats not their fault and also not your fault.
Just carm down OMG - You are new to all this and just have learned the hard way. You now know what you are doing and will learn from all this.
Like I said enjoy Thailand and just relax and have fun.
But remember this one thing and dont get Pi55ed off at me.
Take Any BAR Girl from any bar in Bangla - And you will need to pay her, even she if does to ask for Money.... I may be wrong, but this it what I have read.

Take it easy mate...
All the best
 

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Ok, its been like 12-13 days we are together and still, i haden't give her 1$.

Sounds like you're proud of that! You do realise she has obligations to send money home every month?...hence the tears that she had only made 1300baht in 13 days.
 
OMG has taken a little flak over the non payment but to to be fair, has pointed out he's a newcomer to Thailand. At the same time I'd point out to OMG that the majority of board members will have the girls's best interests at heart when pointing out to someone 'you should have payed', rather than it being anything to do with jealousy that someone can get ladies for free.

I'll say something about payment for OMG's, or any other newbie's benefit, based on my own and other experiences I've read over the years. Some points may have been said already, apologies in advance if so.


To start off OMG said this...



Well, on reading that I can't actually see any clear evidence the girl was expecting him to 'cough up money' as per the usual expected scenario.
I think the money side of things can sometimes be a grey area and not always cut and dry.

Reasons being that some girls are heavily sponsored and may put out for free with holidaymakers they genuinely like the look of, just the same as many expats get freebie's from sponsored girls. Many expats I have known on various boards love nothing more than to rub sponsors noses in regarding that fact.

The only time I would personally take issue with someone not paying these ladies what they are due is when it is quite clear the lady was expecting money in return for the bedroom gymnastics performed, and that the guy in question clearly avoided payment, this is not the case here as far as I can see as OMG went on to say that this girl continued meeting up with him and still didn't mention money, yes some girls are shy to ask and I've certainly listened to many complaints from girls over the years, but in my opinion most bargirls with sense :)rules: ) don't go with that same guy again for round 2,3,4 if they were in fact expecting money.


Then he went on to say this...



Other than the fact the paragraph above also mentions that she continued meeting him, it also mentions he was starting to fall for her charms, a common scenario as many people know.
So it may just be possible this girl was glad of his company and wanted to show off this handsome man to all her friends, it may be this girl is 'thinking outside the box' and could be angling for the possible life changing option where girl meets boy, boy obtains visa, girls joins boy in farangland and supposedly live happily ever after, so many other possibilities here too, they are only 2 examples.

Now in the case of girls expecting money but too shy to ask, or guys ruthlessly kicking the girl out next day without money, then yes they deserve to be berated.
But I do know it to be fact that countless girl and ladyboys often sleep with good looking guys for free, many have told me this themselves, they may have made enough money already that week/month, they may have 1 or several men sending money each month via bank accounts or western union.

When I first starting visiting thailand I wasn't offered a freebie even once, but strangely in the last few years I've had plenty of offers, girls shouting at me in the street that they will 'f**k me for free' or another sexy beer bar girl on my last trip said as I walked past, 'for you, everything free in Thailand'. I stopped and asked her if she was serious at which she seemed adamant she thought I was 'hansum man' and not wanting anything other than good fun.

As flattering to my ego as it was, I have not taken a single girl up on these offers, this is because I remind myself that these girls have families to support. Even though they may be genuine when they say they don't need the money, I still think they are daft to put out for free, almost like they have forgotten the very reason they are there in the first place.

I can tell you that if I was a bargirl myself, it wouldn't matter if I had 10 sponsors and the guys walking up to me looked like David Beckham, I would want to maximise my profit as this business is usually not exactly a long term career option.

Which brings me back to girls with 'sense', I've encountered girls that can see further ahead into their future and make as much money as possible, with long term goals in mind like saving the money obtained for a small business, beauty salon, small shop etc..
But I've also encountered girls that can't see any further than next week, day, minute. These types don't seem to realise the true value of money, spend it like dish water and are possibly more likely to be the type that put out for free, although I could be wrong.

My own personal opinion, as we are talking about prostitution, regardless of how that much line is blurred between customer and 'friend', or 'lover', guys should always make the effort to ask any girl if they expect money, what I just said doesn't apply to guys who intend to offer payment anyway of course. So if you want to do the 'slip into handbag in the morning method', then up to you. But if you don't intend on paying for sex in Thailand, then checking first is the least anyone can do. And if you get the green light for free fun, then all power to you. :drunk:
 

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haha, this tool is a pro poker player, i guessed it when he said: i lost 700 at work today and was pisst, how many jobs do u really lose money in ?, now he is posting graphs to show how balla he is. I know this cuz im poker pro too.
Dude u have shitty software and if u cant pay the ***** u suck at poker.

No hate tho, live it up : )
Im comming soon too, gonna be mad fun...
 
Taylors are very nice guitars. A nylon string guitar is like a woman who is sweet, and kind, treats you well, and is easy to get a long with. The kind that you know you would be better off with.

A steel string guitar(acoutic) is like a woman who is feisty, not easy to handle, and sometimes will hurt you, but she is sexy, and passionate, and gets under your skin. The kind who will always be a little difficult, but you know you want her anyhow, and it is easy to get hooked on her, because she's got soul. Especially if you use the heavier gauge strings. I like Martin medium gauge strings.
 
OMG
You have obviously found a very special and truthful lady.

Stay believing that and go with the flow........maybe after it ends you'll be alot wiser or it.......or if it doesn't end you'll be very happy anyway.

Either way its a win win so enjoy the ride.........and most importantly keep us imformed.

Good Luck
Gateway
 
Be honest OMG - you're an idiot mate - grow up, get a real life, and move on.
At 24 you think far to mutt with your 'small' head and not your brain - you're running around after one girl in a place with hundreds - dont worry about paying 10,000baht cos you can get a good one for 1000 to 2000, but this time make sure you pay them in the morning and send then home, the same as all us cleverer older guys do .......:rules:
 
i really like her version of "river deep mountain high" actually!
 
Celine Dion can sing well... but she looks pretty rough!

Apart from her I love French Canada... Quebec City, Montreal... great places. Girls are hot there too...
 
She has to go back to the village for 5 days to finish school??!! What's that about??

More like get you back there to meet the outlaws. I think you've been wrong in not slipping some money in her purse before leaving you and going to the bar even if you don't have much money...she is working and will be having to send money back to the family which you have to bear in mind if you take her on as a girlfriend...money still has to be sent.
 
Entertaining stuff. Do continue to post your romantic conquests.

Sounds like those young lovelies in Patong don't stand a chance with you about.
 
OMG, Christ knows what you are going to do with all of this advice, however I suspect, as was noted in an earlier post, that you are waiting for the "right" answer, one which suits you.

So here is the bottom line: -- go out and enjoy a good time with the lady and see what transpires. The best case scenario is that you have a great time and maybe find a great lady. The worst-case scenario is that you will have learned something.

Neither is life threatening, so loosen up and "just do it".
 
He will keep testing her to prove something.. In the end her needs will mean she resorts to what she knows.. He will then feel she is a 'bad girl'.. And they both will come away thinking badly about the other person and by extension all people that fit the category..

He will have a 'all Thai girls are *****s' mentality.. And she will think all farangs are full of promises and dont take care.
 
Poker player :rofl: ...I can see that he has a poker face when dealing with BGs... don't good poker players have great control of their emotions?

I'd say more likely he plays some sort of stock market...
 
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    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Nana😘 is a sexy young slim Malaysian girl w
  34. ASPA:
    𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: Be𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹, & Sophia 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ RACHEL is a petite & cute, 34C, 155Cms & 50Kg, very gentle & patient. She has good communication, massage & service. SOPHIA is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5’4”
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Amy & Jenny. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Jenny has a medium build, nicely curvy with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  36. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Vicky🥰A new arrival at our branch 🎉👯‍♀️Vicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 34C boobs on a peti
  37. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Jennifer, Mia & Sophia. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded.
  38. Dreaminn:
    SUNDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: EMILY, LULU & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ EMILY is a tall Chinese girl, 170Cms with nice natural C Cups and long brown hair. Emily is open minded and very friendly. LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant, slim and beautiful with 34C Cups, long sexy legs, and incredible services.
  39. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Summer and young fun Jessy open mind , pretty EFG Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 PAYAL PEARL, MONIKA, NIMRAT, PAOLA, RAVEN, MALIYA, AAVI, KANIKA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. Pink Flower Spa:
    ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough ✰🇱🇧🇱🇧 A talented Girl from Lebanon is joining our team bringing with her a unique set of skillsand a fresh perspective....🇻🇳🇻🇳 Selena (New) Vietnamese just 19Yrs, young & curvy, pretty...🇹🇼🇻🇳Ruby Taiwanese | Vietnamese, medium build and shapely, pretty...🇨🇳🇻🇳Kelly (New) is Chinese Vietnamese, standing tall with captivating beauty and a radiant complexion....✰ PINK FLOWER SPA ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8
  42. Flowers Spa:
    ✰ BLUEXADO SPA ✰ 416.357.9797 ✰ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan 🇻🇳🇻🇳 Anna (New) from HÀNỘI Vietnam beautiful, white skin, big booty...Great Service...🇨🇳🇻🇳 Jessie | Jullie (New) 19Yrs Chinese | Vietnamese, young and pretty...Great Service+...🇭🇰🇭🇰 Sherry | Cici (New) 22Yrs HongKong beautiful, petite, sensitive chest, pretty face...Service Queen...✰ BLUEXADO SPA ✰ 416.357.9797 ✰ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan
  43. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  44. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki and Tiffany Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Slim Sexy Chinese Emma, Young Curvy Sexy Latina Karen, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  46. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-06Today we have 5 girls on Saturday: Jennifer - CBC girl with large breasts and a nice booty to compliment her fun services Vicky - cute spinner with a slim frame and services Sandy -... 💋💋new girl Linda💋💋
  47. KSpa:
    SATURDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: CICI, HELEN, YOYO & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ CICI is a slim 110 Lbs & pretty 23 years “Must Try” honey, with all menus available. HELEN stands 5’3” & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. YOYO is JAPANESE, 21 Yrs, 5’2” & 115 Lbs, with a nice big ass & great service.
  48. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan just ar
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Foxy -🔥Your new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5’7” sexy Korean girl with a wild ro
  50. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Monica ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Wendy ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
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