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Haha another newbie or pimp I don't know crying after demanding me to share contact in exchange of Dark Riya from Thane and khushi from Mira Road,

Bro before you blame anyone please keep in mind that no senior will help you if you behave like this. I have been in this forum for more than 3 years and the tricks that people use like you did is easily recognized. Fellow brothers keep note of this username. He will start conversation with you in exchange of old set of indies like Riya Thane and expect some fireworks in return. Keep note of this.
Hey buddy,

I agree, newbie or joinees should check track record of fellow member before making any allegation.... however your behaviour is suspicious...as there are limited indies...it might happen that you already posses shared indie details....and what's harm in helping others....this forum is to share experience and help others. I request you to be generous to newbie or joinees....


and also like to other guy....it's not good to blame others...if they don't want to share details it's fine...being a true monger...you don't need to beg for contacts....

PS: please don't take my thoughts personally.

Keep mongering...
 
Hey buddy,

I agree, newbie or joinees should check track record of fellow member before making any allegation.... however your behaviour is suspicious...as there are limited indies...it might happen that you already posses shared indie details....and what's harm in helping others....this forum is to share experience and help others. I request you to be generous to newbie or joinees....


and also like to other guy....it's not good to blame others...if they don't want to share details it's fine...being a true monger...you don't need to beg for contacts....

PS: please don't take my thoughts personally.

Keep mongering...

Let me make this very clear because you have also requested me some contacts. I am not the one to ask for contacts in first case. People start the conversation and I do help accordingly. I have shared contacts in the past, recently and will help definitely. Even when I was new I asked contacts with fellow members and they helped. Also there were times when I also shared contacts and people vanished without any reply. But I didn't complain or accuse anybody. It happens and we are mature enough to understand. Now what I don't like is when newbies ask me contacts they expect all their contacts to be given to them very easily and without any delay. We are all humans and we dont spend 24 hours in this forum. There is life outside it. If I am unable to answer it means I may be busy with some work. Now this guy couldn't hold his erection and accused me of stealing his gem like contact. Well brother we all all know about Riya Thane, from Whom diseases also remain far away as she is the most bekaar type. Now if you expect me to return contacts in exchange of that , sorry that is not possible. Other thing I dont ever ask members to readily reveal their contacts to me like Riya Thane and expect me to do the same. I first ask about the indie name, service , damage, etc. Now if you yourself forcefully try to give me those contacts and expect me to exchange, then again a big sorry. And specially who join recently please do some homework. I am not the one to be fooled easily. Lastly I would request all new members to understand that we are not always present in the forum to answer your request for contacts. If you keep accusing members, you wont get any help.
There is no harm in helping others I know but there is harm in accusing others, remember that.
 
Let me make this very clear because you have also requested me some contacts. I am not the one to ask for contacts in first case. People start the conversation and I do help accordingly. I have shared contacts in the past, recently and will help definitely. Even when I was new I asked contacts with fellow members and they helped. Also there were times when I also shared contacts and people vanished without any reply. But I didn't complain or accuse anybody. It happens and we are mature enough to understand. Now what I don't like is when newbies ask me contacts they expect all their contacts to be given to them very easily and without any delay. We are all humans and we dont spend 24 hours in this forum. There is life outside it. If I am unable to answer it means I may be busy with some work. Now this guy couldn't hold his erection and accused me of stealing his gem like contact. Well brother we all all know about Riya Thane, from Whom diseases also remain far away as she is the most bekaar type. Now if you expect me to return contacts in exchange of that , sorry that is not possible. Other thing I dont ever ask members to readily reveal their contacts to me like Riya Thane and expect me to do the same. I first ask about the indie name, service , damage, etc. Now if you yourself forcefully try to give me those contacts and expect me to exchange, then again a big sorry. And specially who join recently please do some homework. I am not the one to be fooled easily. Lastly I would request all new members to understand that we are not always present in the forum to answer your request for contacts. If you keep accusing members, you wont get any help.
There is no harm in helping others I know but there is harm in accusing others, remember that.
Well said bro...!!!
Man his a very helpful guy and has also helped me...

Because of such newbies it becomes difficult for others also to get contacts...

Please grow up...!!!

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Let me make this very clear because you have also requested me some contacts. I am not the one to ask for contacts in first case. People start the conversation and I do help accordingly. I have shared contacts in the past, recently and will help definitely. Even when I was new I asked contacts with fellow members and they helped. Also there were times when I also shared contacts and people vanished without any reply. But I didn't complain or accuse anybody. It happens and we are mature enough to understand. Now what I don't like is when newbies ask me contacts they expect all their contacts to be given to them very easily and without any delay. We are all humans and we dont spend 24 hours in this forum. There is life outside it. If I am unable to answer it means I may be busy with some work. Now this guy couldn't hold his erection and accused me of stealing his gem like contact. Well brother we all all know about Riya Thane, from Whom diseases also remain far away as she is the most bekaar type. Now if you expect me to return contacts in exchange of that , sorry that is not possible. Other thing I dont ever ask members to readily reveal their contacts to me like Riya Thane and expect me to do the same. I first ask about the indie name, service , damage, etc. Now if you yourself forcefully try to give me those contacts and expect me to exchange, then again a big sorry. And specially who join recently please do some homework. I am not the one to be fooled easily. Lastly I would request all new members to understand that we are not always present in the forum to answer your request for contacts. If you keep accusing members, you wont get any help.
There is no harm in helping others I know but there is harm in accusing others, remember that.
I agree with you....and don't accused you........yeah I asked you for the contact and I am ready to share mine as well.....but it might be possible that you already possess them with you....my list is very small but here it is


Neelam 7197
Riya 4542
Nilam 4416
Komal 0620
Nupur 6010
Nisha 1402
Meghna 6566
Ritu 5355


And few others which I haven't tried as of now...

But I don't hasitate to share...even without exchange


Thanks
 
anyoneknows Ishita :- ending 3048,
has goodlooking dp on whatsapp, was not able to speak, anyone knows tried her?
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shared actual pic (attached), very diff from dp pic that she had earlier!
got to know location chembur, anyone has tried her?
 
Folks shruti from Thane number ending 6157 is of someone else...kindly be aware..
 
I am a newbie here.

A few people have shared some contacts (two to be precise) with me without asking for exchange and i am thankful to them, though i have not tried them out.

But i just wonder why majority of people insist on asking for a contact in exchange ?
Why cant you share the digits without asking anything in exchange ?





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I am a newbie here.

A few people have shared some contacts (two to be precise) with me without asking for exchange and i am thankful to them, though i have not tried them out.

But i just wonder why majority of people insist on asking for a contact in exchange ?
Why cant you share the digits without asking anything in exchange ?





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Ya and one more serious problem...
Now even though you have two contacts probably all the senior members would be having it...
Making it difficult to exchange...
Wat should be done in such a scenario...??

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No its her
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Hi Grover,
Please PM me exchange ?
Regards,
Don

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Ya and one more serious problem...
Now even though you have two contacts probably all the senior members would be having it...
Making it difficult to exchange...
Wat should be done in such a scenario...??

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I honestly dont know what to do.
This is one of the reason i havent been able to try out any indies for last 1-2 years.
I then decided to go alone and monger in db and sb.

I just wish if people could help a bit more generously.


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I am a newbie here.

A few people have shared some contacts (two to be precise) with me without asking for exchange and i am thankful to them, though i have not tried them out.

But i just wonder why majority of people insist on asking for a contact in exchange ?
Why cant you share the digits without asking anything in exchange ?





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Well brother understand this, when you start a conversation with someone for getting contacts they would like to give those which you don't have. Now if we don't ask what all you have already and blindly give you contacts, there may be some who may say, I already have this, and this collection will go on and on. And as you say you haven't tried any, this process merely is meaningless and waste of time.

Secondly if you do happen to give some useful inputs, chances are high that you will be getting contacts without much bargain next time. These points should be kept in mind.
 
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Well brother understand this, when you start a conversation with someone for getting contacts they would like to give those which you don't have. Now if we don't ask what all you have already and blindly give you contacts, there may be some who may say, I already have this, and this collection will go on and on. And as you say you haven't tried any, this process merely is meaningless and waste of time.

Secondly if you do happen to give some useful inputs, chances are high that you will be getting contacts without much bargain next time. These points should be kept in mind.
Bhai, if someone geniunely wants to help, he will share the contacts.
If i happen to have the same contact i will tell him that i have the same contact pls give another one, isnt it ?

About not trying out the contact, both the contacts didnot look good as per my requirement. Do u think one is obliged to tryout the contact just because someone has given it ?

My point here was simple - if person A asks from a contact in particular area, person B says "yes i can share the contact but only if you exchange in return"
WHY ???
cant person B simply share the contact ?


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Ok so this is the judgement day which would keep on coming again and again not matter how much we try to avoid it...

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Bhai, if someone geniunely wants to help, he will share the contacts.
If i happen to have the same contact i will tell him that i have the same contact pls give another one, isnt it ?

About not trying out the contact, both the contacts didnot look good as per my requirement. Do u think one is obliged to tryout the contact just because someone has given it ?

My point here was simple - if person A asks from a contact in particular area, person B says "yes i can share the contact but only if you exchange in return"
WHY ???
cant person B simply share the contact ?


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Correct ...

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Or else just posses some good communication skills it's helps I had pm'ed you bro would now pm u tomm as m pretty fucked nd sleepy now...

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Bhai, if someone geniunely wants to help, he will share the contacts.
If i happen to have the same contact i will tell him that i have the same contact pls give another one, isnt it ?

About not trying out the contact, both the contacts didnot look good as per my requirement. Do u think one is obliged to tryout the contact just because someone has given it ?

My point here was simple - if person A asks from a contact in particular area, person B says "yes i can share the contact but only if you exchange in return"
WHY ???
cant person B simply share the contact ?


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Barter system in short ...i dislike it
 
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    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely new girl Suki big boobs,sexy butt😜😜😜and Cici Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Helen 🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  30. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 LUCY, MALIYA, PAOLA, ANGELINA, MONIKA, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  31. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  32. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  33. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at ❤️💙 💜𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔💖💗💘: CHERRY, MIA, TIFFANY & ZOEY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. MIA is a young & slim, very PRETTY & VERY petite Vietnamese beauty, 5’1” & 90 Lbs
  34. Hollywood_Spa:
    💘💥 a cozy spa at 4578 Yonge Street unit 100💞💋 Wednesday, 💯💥 Sisi, 👄👄 very slim build, medium height, can do firm treatment and over the top service. Cheerful personality and always thrilled to see you. ❤💋 Nicole, 💋 small girl, but kinda busty, very pretty, long dark hair, nice shape chest, very good treatment followed by excellent service 💋 📱 416 222-5554📱
  35. KSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: ANA, KELLY, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ ANA is a pretty lady standing 5’4” & weighing 115 Lbs, with 36C melons and a very sexy body. KELLY stands 5’3” & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. SUKI is 23, 5’2” & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body.
  36. Withme_Spa:
    💕💗 at 4386 Sheppard Avenue east 💥💋 Wednesday, ❣💋 Ruby, 💋💋 medium height and sexy build with shapely legs and ass. friendly, does a very relaxing treatment and wonderful finish... comfortable treatment ❣❤ Apple, 💞nicely toned body, very pretty and friendly, skilled hands to relax you and knows how to please a man 💞 Amy, 💋 slim, and sexy body, very pretty. High energy session in store for you. 💘 🔋 416 297-7488🔋
  37. Dreaminn:
    WEDNESDAY at💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: ANGELA & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ ANGELA is a slim pretty lady from China, with natural boobs, slim waist and grabbable ass. TINA is a Vietnamese girl with long black hair, slim with nice curves. New to Canada, & speaks English well. Come & welcome her.
  38. lemon_tree:
    💛💥 a discreet entrance at 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201 💞💋 Wednesday, ❣❤ Alina, 💋 awesome body, very pretty and friendly, skilled hands to relax you and knows how to make you happy. 💗 Lisa, 💖 📞 647 348-2899📞
  39. SunriseRH:
    WEDNESDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: MICHELLE % SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  40. NewOriental:
    WEDNESDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty & very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5’7” tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
  41. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    🔴❣ at 4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5 💋💞Tammy,👄 full body treatment by an amazing attendant... cheerful and upbeat personality, very fun ❤ ☎️ 647 352-1588☎️
  42. ASPA:
    𝗪𝗘𝗗𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗗𝗔𝗬 at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Amy, Coco & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Cindy, Kelly & Kiki. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Kelly is slim and attractive with very slight curves, all natural coconuts, a nice bum, and rockin’ services.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5’3” with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute student Mia 25 years old and young fun Yuki 28 years old open mind , pretty GFE Lina and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Sundayhacker:
    Burldude12 is a low life loossserrr
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Sexy Slim Chinese Emma, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica sexy body boots bips and Cici Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Helen 🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  50. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Angel 💕 Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can worship and ador
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