Love your back

Thanks for raising this subject, Myarka.

There is one piece of advice with which I disagree strongly:


Too many people I have met have gone the GP route 'just in case'. only to end up with misdiagnosis or a quagmire of medications and surgery from which they find it very difficult to escape. There are many, many such cases here in HP, totally lost and begging for any glimpse of light at the end of the tunnel.

That's not to say that visiting the GP is a bad idea in itself, it's just that as a course of action it's no more likely to lead to a solution. Advising that they must always visit their GP first is actually incorrect, nay inappropriate.

Complementary therapists such as osteopaths, chiropractors etc ARE able to diagnose and it is completely appropriate to visit them as a first port of call, for this and many other problems. They also understand when it is important to refer for other opinions, and are able to recognise when there is a possibility of a hidden serious problem.

But more importantly for back pain sufferers, they are trained to a much higher degree in understanding and solving these particular problems. Hence whereas the GP may offer you the reassurance that you are probably not dying, and may offer relief from pain, the osteopath can also usually offer you an actual solution to the underlying cause of the problem as well.
 
Ahhhh but kvdp.... Gp's hold the purse strings and the funding, to get any treatment on the nhs one has to go via them or a consultant?
 
There are several reasons I believe it's important that readers should see theri GP. I also believe it's sad the numbers of back sufferers who rush for a surgical solution.

It's for that reason why I started this thread in the first place.... That I find it sad that many people are becoming defined by their experience of back pain.

There is a lot we can do as individuals to prevent and preserve. I have been in the situation with acute back pain and chose to go the medical route, and now have been pain free of about 10 years enabling me to enjoy martial arts.

However, back to the point of why I suggest that readers consult their GP and I'm not speaking for osteopaths or chiropractors.

There are many causes of back pain that are not musculoskeletal and therefore outside of my remit as a remedial massage therapist. All complimentary therapists have a duty of care to work within their competance.

Therefore I don't think we should use this thread to have a pop at the medical services, but instead we should be be enouraging readers to take responsibility for their backs in the understanding that there is a lot that can be done in prevetion and treatment without the recourse to surgery.

Myarka.
 
Cassie - possibly yes, although that's not a clinical point, so I can't really answer it. But many people do self-fund, IMHO you get what you pay for - generally.

That said, I never turn anybody away purely because of money - if they are serious about getting better, genuinely want something more than the standard fare of healthcare, and are struggling to afford it, then I will always see what can be done. At any one moment I have a few patients on concessions and usually one free-but-deserving case on the go.

As a result I'm not rich like some GPs I know, but I do get to do the job properly, which is immensly satisfying.
 
Myarka, I see where you're coming from, and that's all very well.

I wasn't having a pop at medical services, but as an osteopath I do come under the banner of complementary therapist.

Nevertheless I am qualified to diagnose, screen for pathology, and refer to other disciplines, as well as to treat many problems without reference to a doctor. Therefore it is quite important not to convey to the public the very false impression that they must see their GP first - that's potentially misleading.
 
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    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Part Time Chinese Emma, Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  42. Flowers Spa:
    ✰ BlueXado Spa ✰ 416 357 9797 ✰1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan 🇲🇾🇻🇳 MY LINH | LINDA a 21-year-old Vietnamese Malaysian, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments 🇯🇵🇯🇵 TRACY (New) 22-year-old, petite Japanese, young & pretty face...Satisfy All Needs...After 9PM 🇻🇳🇻🇳 HANNA Vietnamese good, energetic medium body; also does lighter treatments with emphasis on service ✰ BlueXado Spa ✰ 416 357 9797 ✰1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan ✰
  43. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699We have 5 young girls for your enjoyment Tuesday : :heart4:heart4 New girl lisa :heart4 Judy - well proportioned model to bring toe curling fun Rina - petite beauty ready to rock your world Lucy- tall leggy beauty with nice figure Barbie -...
  44. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia😘 - A shy new Korean girl waiting to e
  45. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  46. KSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: ANA, KELLY, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ ANA is a pretty lady standing 5’4” & weighing 115 Lbs, with 36C melons and a very sexy body. KELLY stands 5’3” & weighs 110 Lbs, with nice 34D pillows to comfort you. SUKI is 23, 5’2” & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body.
  47. Moon203:
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  48. SunriseRH:
    TUESDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: MICHELLE, SOPHIA & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SOPHIA is a young slim very pretty lady with natural B Cup melons & a great booty. Sophia has very versatile services.
  49. NewOriental:
    TUESDAY at 𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HAPPY & VIVIAN. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. VIVIAN is a pretty & very sexy Chinese doll, standing 5’7” tall, with a slim figure. Vivian is very friendly and versatile.
  50. ASPA:
    TUESDAY at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Cherry & best massage Rachel 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ CHERRY is a Vietnamese beauty, standing 1.62Cm tall & weighing 50Kg, with a nice 32C bust size. She is a sexy and charming lady with excellent service. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant
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