Review Micha at QQ Spa

[Frank Underwood]

You know nothing about the boss. I have been with so many spa bosses. She is the best one I have ever seen. She just wanted to make sure every customer is treated well and fair and not get ripped off. The girls already got her cut of 130 bucks and she wants to make sure it's fair to everyone.
Let me tell you a little about Fifi before you shoot shits without knowing anything about her. She is loved by every girl and she treats all her girls as her own daughters. The girls call her mom. She buys them lunch and dinner every day. One girl's car got broken into last week in the spa parking lot and her LV purse was stolen. She wanted to help the girl out and asked me how much will it cost to fix her Mercedes window. I told her the girl was stupid enough to leave her LV bag inside visible in parking lot, so no need to help her and let her go through insurance. She wouldn't listen to me. She still helped her out with $1,000 basic deductible. That's how she is.
Last year and early this yr, when the covid LE was going around inspecting spas and businesses for masks and issuing tickets. 3 of her girls got $880 tickets each. She paid for them all. I got a ticket too. She tried to pay my ticket. I said No and I went to the court. I haven't heard anything back yet even though the clerk told me I will have my court date some time in September.
Where can you find a boss like that? Not in your life.
There are only two spa bosses I respect. One is Fifi. Enough said.

If she's penalizing every girl when a client complains then she likely has a decent enough war chest from funds collected in penalty fees to pay for tickets. The news of car being broken into are shocking because what's the point of all those cameras all over the place when they neither deter robbers nor provide information to the police on how to solve a case. Did she choose not to contact the police?

 

[Frank Underwood]

Well, fair enough. Context is everything

Not really, threatening a sex worker to do any service or activity in fear of losing her job is a soft coercion. You better give me the $40 back or you're gone, is coercion.

 

[luvdafurburger]

If she's penalizing every girl when a client complains then she likely has a decent enough war chest from funds collected in penalty fees to pay for tickets. The news of car being broken into are shocking because what's the point of all those cameras all over the place when they neither deter robbers nor provide information to the police on how to solve a case. Did she choose not to contact the police?

I think your statement just gave AvoidSeductionSpas a boner. I could hear it from here.

 

[Zeroseven]

Not really, threatening a sex worker to do any service or activity in fear of losing her job is a soft coercion. You better give me the $40 back or you're gone, is coercion.

Hmm. I’m drunk. Didn’t think it through

 

[Frank Underwood]

Hmm. I’m drunk. Didn’t think it through

Imagine how scared the girl must have been to give back $40 that she didn't even take from the client! That's next level intimidation.

 

[C0ld_zer0]

Duly noted my friend, Tuyet is so young and tender, almost a little too much. I'm sure we have nothing to worry about. I will review her next.

Please do. Planning to visit her soon

 

[Deleted member 64273]

Alright, just because I didn't pay the 40 doesn't mean some other guy didn't. This is easily a case of mistaken identity and just proves that Micha has been upcharging for a while. I don't have a problem with that as it's not the first time a MPA tried that on me. I didn't pay then and I didn't pay now. It's their body and their rules and my money and my decision.

But, spa owners also have their perogatives too. I am looking forward to visiting again. Probably in Dec 10 as I have a day off. We shall see though as I've worked thru my spare cash that I use for hobbying.

Let's not turn my thread into another flame war please. Plenty of other threads out there for that shit.

 

[cupcrazy]

You know nothing about the boss. I have been with so many spa bosses and I have never seen one like her. She is the best one I have ever seen. She just wanted to make sure every customer is treated well and fair and not get ripped off. The girl already got her cut of 130 bucks and she wants to make sure it's fair to everyone.
Let me tell you a little about Fifi before you shoot shits without knowing anything about her. She is loved by every girl and she treats all her girls as her own daughters. The girls call her mom. She buys them lunch and dinner every day. One girl's car got broken into last week in the spa parking lot and her LV purse was stolen. She wanted to help the girl out and asked me how much will it cost to fix her Mercedes window. I told her the girl was stupid enough to leave her LV bag inside visible in parking lot, so no need to help her and let her go through insurance. She wouldn't listen to me. She still helped her out with $1,000 basic deductible. That's how she is.
Last year and early this yr, when the covid LE was going around inspecting spas and businesses for masks and issuing tickets. 3 of her girls got $880 tickets each. She paid for them all. I got a ticket too. She tried to pay my ticket. I said No and I went to the court. I haven't heard anything back yet even though the clerk told me I will have my court date some time in September.
There were a few times when I was at QQ, I saw her mopping the floor and cleaning the washroom when the girls were just resting and chit chatting, I told her why didn't you ask the girls to help clean the spa? She said it's okay. let them rest. I feel like kicking the girls' asses.
Where can you find a boss like that? Not in your life. Not a chance.
There are only two spa bosses I respect. One is Fifi. Enough said.

And who is the other boss you respect?

 

[cupcrazy]

If she's penalizing every girl when a client complains then she likely has a decent enough war chest from funds collected in penalty fees to pay for tickets. The news of car being broken into are shocking because what's the point of all those cameras all over the place when they neither deter robbers nor provide information to the police on how to solve a case. Did she choose not to contact the police?

Good luck at identifying the suspect when the person is covered with a face mask and possibly wearing a Hoodia or something to conceal his or her identity.


Every company has rules and expectations from its staff.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Alright, just because I didn't pay the 40 doesn't mean some other guy didn't. This is easily a case of mistaken identity and just proves that Micha has been upcharging for a while. I don't have a problem with that as it's not the first time a MPA tried that on me. I didn't pay then and I didn't pay now. It's their body and their rules and my money and my decision.

But, spa owners also have their perogatives too. I am looking forward to visiting again. Probably in Dec 10 as I have a day off. We shall see though as I've worked thru my spare cash that I use for hobbying.

Let's not turn my thread into another flame war please. Plenty of other threads out there for that shit.

If your thread turns into a flame war, it won't be on my account. I have said my peace, and I have the feeling that Krayjee won't reply because he would love for people to stop talking about QQ's flirtation with LE, I doubt his gang will come in here and retort either. The wookie may come in and display his homophobia, but since I am not gay nor bothered by gays then that is easy to ignore.

It's interesting that you mentioned in another thread about you used to be a mod for another board, this board needs some moderation so badly.

Lastly, regarding your comment on the girl you reviewed, I think you are enabling. I don't see any scenario where a girl is forced to give back $40 she didn't take without the girl being coerced. As krayjee said the girl is from Alberta, so it is so much easier to intimidate since she is probably sleeping in the little bunk beds at the back of the spa and if she doesn't want to end up on the streets she better pay up.

 

[Deleted member 64273]

This board is fine the way it is. I just self moderate and put anyone I don't want to read on Ignore. Moderation is over rated. I moderate a game forum right now and it practically moderates itself.

I don't want to get pulled into the drama world again so I let people be people. We don't know each other so we don't know what drives us so it's better to just let everyone do their thing and move on.

As for flirtation with LE...LE doesn't care about places like these. Hell, Premier has been to court so many times it's not even interesting anymore. You think LE doesn't know what happens in these places? After the big purge several years ago, there hasn't been much interest from LE in these places. Bylaw is a different story as they have a quota to make in terms of fines. It's all about the money for them.

 

[Frank Underwood]

This board is fine the way it is. I just self moderate and put anyone I don't want to read on Ignore. Moderation is over rated. I moderate a game forum right now and it practically moderates itself.

I don't want to get pulled into the drama world again so I let people be people. We don't know each other so we don't know what drives us so it's better to just let everyone do their thing and move on.

As for flirtation with LE...LE doesn't care about places like these. Hell, Premier has been to court so many times it's not even interesting anymore. You think LE doesn't know what happens in these places? After the big purge several years ago, there hasn't been much interest from LE in these places. Bylaw is a different story as they have a quota to make in terms of fines. It's all about the money for them.

I will say it again, I am not an expert in the massage space, so I am not familiar with the bylaws and licensing. As a lifetime horny man addicted to hookers, I have more than enough knowledge and experiences to say that, currently in the market we are in, post Moonwaiting VIP demise, it is clear that police is going after very specific things in the sex trade.

That is Human Trafficking and underage girls.

Underage girls would be the worst, because if human trafficking is coercion of people with the end goal of exploiting the fruits of their labor, exploiting a minor is a double wrong. Minors are more susceptible to intimidation and manipulation.

I think so long as any part of the sex industry stays away from those two things then they should be fine. Coercion of a girl is flirting with the devil, because it just takes one girl to complain to trigger an avalanche of shit.

 

[Deleted member 64273]

Reminds me of Maria from Minx Spa back the day. That still gives me the heebeejeebees. She looked so freaking young, told me that she lost her virginity to a client (both virginities), and Greek with her was so loose I couldn't feel a thing.

Trafficking is a real thing unfortunately and is the dark side of this industry. Maybe if Canada just handled the industry the way Australia does, trafficking would go down. Maybe...who knows.

 

[luvdafurburger]

If your thread turns into a flame war, it won't be on my account. I have said my peace, and I have the feeling that Krayjee won't reply because he would love for people to stop talking about QQ's flirtation with LE, I doubt his gang will come in here and retort either. The wookie may come in and display his homophobia, but since I am not gay nor bothered by gays then that is easy to ignore.

It's interesting that you mentioned in another thread about you used to be a mod for another board, this board needs some moderation so badly.

Lastly, regarding your comment on the girl you reviewed, I think you are enabling. I don't see any scenario where a girl is forced to give back $40 she didn't take without the girl being coerced. As krayjee said the girl is from Alberta, so it is so much easier to intimidate since she is probably sleeping in the little bunk beds at the back of the spa and if she doesn't want to end up on the streets she better pay up.

I won't continue with you Frankie because it is boring but a little word of advice: if you didn't feel compelled to take your little shot at every guy on here some might not think you're such a cunt.

 

[Frank Underwood]

I won't continue with you Frankie because it is boring but a little word of advice: if you didn't feel compelled to take your little shot at every guy on here some might not think you're such a cunt.

I urge you to read my posts and exchanges between XTC and me, I don't know who you are, but I certainly know him. That seems to be the thing that "triggered" you. The feeling that you are protecting him. As I said to you recently, the relationship between me and him, is something you shouldn't meddle with. He doesn't need defending, and if he is messaging you privately to "instigate you," well, he is using you because he knows he cannot come out directly with his slander.

I don't think I have taken shots at you, that were not made in jest. You are right though, I am also to blame for engaging with some people that I shouldn't have on here and I should have spent more time getting to know the people. I am here for the reviews, and the entertainment. I have gotten to know the community here a little more, and I am growing fond of them.

 

[snoopdoggie]

I will say it again, I am not an expert in the massage space, so I am not familiar with the bylaws and licensing. As a lifetime horny man addicted to hookers, I have more than enough knowledge and experiences to say that, currently in the market we are in, post Moonwaiting VIP demise, it is clear that police is going after very specific things in the sex trade.

That is Human Trafficking and underage girls.

Underage girls would be the worst, because if human trafficking is coercion of people with the end goal of exploiting the fruits of their labor, exploiting a minor is a double wrong. Minors are more susceptible to intimidation and manipulation.

I think so long as any part of the sex industry stays away from those two things then they should be fine. Coercion of a girl is flirting with the devil, because it just takes one girl to complain to trigger an avalanche of shit.

I would also think that the police are looking for illegal immigrants who are overstaying their visits.

 

[luvdafurburger]

I urge you to read my posts and exchanges between XTC and me, I don't know who you are, but I certainly know him. That seems to be the thing that "triggered" you. The feeling that you are protecting him. As I said to you recently, the relationship between me and him, is something you shouldn't meddle with. He doesn't need defending, and if he is messaging you privately to "instigate you," well, he is using you because he knows he cannot come out directly with his slander.

I don't think I have taken shots at you, that were not made in jest. You are right though, I am also to blame for engaging with some people that I shouldn't have on here and I should have spent more time getting to know the people. I am here for the reviews, and the entertainment. I have gotten to know the community here a little more, and I am growing fond of them.

Admin: please install a snore icon. I promise I'll use it.

 

[Frank Underwood]

I would also think that the police are looking for illegal immigrants who are overstaying their visits.

You are right, illegal migrants are an at risk group susceptible to coercion and at risk of human trafficking due to the feeling that they don't have rights being in a country unknown. Most of them don't speak English and cannot seek out help or research the resources. In a way, the trafficking pimp becomes their only support.

Nevertheless, not all illegal migrants are trafficked but if you find large concentrations of this group of people working at a certain place, that probably means the working conditions are questionable.

This is why the story about the girl from Alberta, being forced to give back $40 that she didn't take, was a hard pill to swallow. She is certainly sleeping over at the back of the spa, because you better believe that Krayjee didn't put her in a hotel. So she is in a new city, probably no friends except her "pimps" and if these pimps were to threaten her with "you give the money now or you are gone," well that is cruel and coercive.

 

[Noeq]

Fifi was one of my favorites when she was 12 years younger 12 years ago at LuluVilla. She was a service queen back then.

 

[luvdafurburger]

You are right, illegal migrants are an at risk group susceptible to coercion and at risk of human trafficking due to the feeling that they don't have rights being in a country unknown. Most of them don't speak English and cannot seek out help or research the resources. In a way, the trafficking pimp becomes their only support.

Nevertheless, not all illegal migrants are trafficked but if you find large concentrations of this group of people working at a certain place, that probably means the working conditions are questionable.

This is why the story about the girl from Alberta, being forced to give back $40 that she didn't take, was a hard pill to swallow. She is certainly sleeping over at the back of the spa, because you better believe that Krayjee didn't put her in a hotel. So she is in a new city, probably no friends except her "pimps" and if these pimps were to threaten her with "you give the money now or you are gone," well that is cruel and coercive.

You are right, illegal migrants are an at risk group susceptible to coercion and at risk of human trafficking due to the feeling that they don't have rights being in a country unknown. Most of them don't speak English and cannot seek out help or research the resources. In a way, the trafficking pimp becomes their only support.

Nevertheless, not all illegal migrants are trafficked but if you find large concentrations of this group of people working at a certain place, that probably means the working conditions are questionable.

This is why the story about the girl from Alberta, being forced to give back $40 that she didn't take, was a hard pill to swallow. She is certainly sleeping over at the back of the spa, because you better believe that Krayjee didn't put her in a hotel. So she is in a new city, probably no friends except her "pimps" and if these pimps were to threaten her with "you give the money now or you are gone," well that is cruel and coercive.

That sounds exactly like the kind of situation you gravitate to though. I'm confused. Now you are pretending you're against that? Or you just stay away from that until the dust settles? Or maybe your agency is a little better? What's your Map buddies from your other sites take on that?

Hmmm...