POLL; Who is responsible for not finishing early?

[familyguy]

I just had a really intense 45 minute session with a favorite of mine and it enjoyed every minute of it except for the fact that it was over in 30 minutes. We have always had a blast together but I couldn't help walking away feeling like I'd been had, just a little bit.
Is it my job to watch the clock and hold back accordingly or is it hers to make sure I get my full time?

 

[Jisha]

I believe that it is a little of both.

In both cases of early or not ...

If you are quick on the draw, that is really not your fault as you have an obstacle to get over ... just want to be polite to those that do. But then again if the MPA knows this she can work around it until the time elapses and then you are both satisfied. It is communication.

Of course if you don't have this problem, make sure that the communication is still there, tell her to slow down or whatever.

Sometimes a clock isn't in the room or clearly visible, it is up to the MPA to keep track of the time or the owner/manager to knock/scratch the door.

Going over isn't really a problem unless the MPA goes times up and heads for the sink. Many times an MPA gets fed up and puts that attitude on you, remember many times there is a mind factor involved that can just ruin a session and can make you feeling limp.

Whatever the case, it is the responsibility of both ... you for communicating your needs and her to repond to them, all within MP limits of course.

VBB

 

[JasonsWifey]

I always state that I'm a tough release so start 15 early, but if your technique completes me in 5, can I get a warm towel clean-up and a facial/head/and or foot massage to finish out the time? I've never had anyone say no.... I guess it's all in communication.

So I'd say both also. No crime in saying how you'd like the session to go, and no need for her to rush out like the jack marks the end, period, finito..I'm outta here.

 

[Pompal 09.]

As one of the polite and well mannered clients, I do get a little jumpy if its getting close to the time limit and I'm not ready to go. I am a bit of a clock-watcher and am respectful of the ladies time. I also don't want her to get in trouble by management. So sometimes I feel like guilty if we go over.

In some cases I don't care if we go an hour over, because the massage is so good and the both of us are into it. I believe that the MPA is responsible for the clock management. Some of the vets out there have mastered the hurry-up offence and managed to satisfy me as well as their time commitments.

What I don't like is when there is a half hearted effort and I am told point blank there is 5 minutes left. Talk about putting on the pressure. At times I have stopped right there and said no point in continuing, I understand you probably have another appointment so here is the tip and I will be showering now thank you. Not rude, but as cold as I get it.

In the end I guess its really about the chemisty between the MPA and myself.

And I also understand that this probably does not address the original question but I am only 2 posts away

 

[JASPER]

In my opinion... it's our responsibility. If she's an experienced attendant... I'm sure she knows when you're just about ready. So... just communicate with her before the point of no return. Change positions... ask to massage her... but do something before it's too late.

 

[robbinhood]

"In my opinion... it's our responsibility. If she's an experienced attendant... I'm sure she knows when you're just about ready. So... just communicate with her before the point of no return. Change positions... ask to massage her... but do something before it's too late."

In today's case I guess I could have stopped but she was giving me all those dirty looks and my will power just gave out. She knew what she was doing. I felt she could have played with me a bit longer but on the other hand I'm weak, she weakens me. As she didn't offer to reduce the fee to 30 minutes i got my revenge; no tip.

 

[BossResurfacing]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but why is it that the experience being over is being judged as the point of release ?

I know we're men and all, but a good MPA should be able to, and maybe even should, allow for some kind of "wind down" ( acronym lite, shower together, gentle [mutual] "massage", cool off "insert personification of your penis" etc )

Aside from that I agree with what everyone else said. It's a shared responsibilty with a slight leaning toward that of the MPA, but communication/gesture is important.

 

[Prometheus]

I've had an hour session turn into a two hour session without both of us being aware. So its a shared responsibility. There are several factors that will lead upto this. But basically, if you and the MPA "click", the clock just becomes a wall decoration. Ofcourse this is bad, either the MPA can be nice and not charge you and pay the room fee out of her pocket or try to talk the owner out of it, or you pay the extra room time.

 

[Richard Li]

It's all about 2-way commumication. Many MPA's go for the finish quite early to give them a cushion just in case the client takes longer. It's up to the client to tell the MPA ahead of the grand-finale or at the beginning of the session how long he can hold out, so she can allocate time properly.

I know, sometimes other factors are involved that may shorten/lengthen the finale. From my experiences, if I'm with an MPA I haven't seen before, I will let her know what my timing is like, so that she doesn't shortchange me.

 

[Boudicca]

Sure if you finish with not much provocation, then, it is the guy's responsibility. This has only happened once in my case.
However, much more-so than not, if the MPA (and this has happened quite a few times) gives your volcano the 'yank it 'til you spew' at the 15 minute mark, then it is definitely their responsibility to continue the massage, or do an extra clean-up, or something that keeps the session going rather than the standard line, "MS, do you mind if I hop in the shower first?". Its these moments that make me wonder why I treat em well & respectfully. In these cases, it usually results in me not seeing said MPA again.
I think I've learned now that you should definitely try to throw a curveball when those situations present themselves.

 

[Power of m squared]

You think that coz it's in line with "your light" : ) ... or at least one of your beacons.

 

[Vince]

Oh My God! POOL, YOUR BACK!

My massageplanet.net conversation cohort,....
the poster who forces me to think deeper,....the rock on
dude....I thought maybe you went to see the Museum of Rock n
Roll in Tennesee....or Elvis' house....or to the Hard Rock
Hotel in Vegas..to place a rose on Hendrix's grave....Did you not hear my cries of confusion?

My inept ability to understand things called Ripwon...or..
Riptorn..or something to that effect,..some stupid #'s
and computer jimbo jaber...and some people...they lead me..
lead me...I swear..like bees to honey...they lead me to believe...that you...you were not real...that you were just another number. That you were just an identical Ripwong....
in a mass of other Ripwing's. I WAS SHOCKED, I tell ya. Shocked.
I had to log out and check my AP, Reuter's wire special bulletin.

But, thank God it was all straightned out. I now know who's who.
Speaking of Who, which album do you recommend?

 

[Marko S]

Oh Yeah, the thread topic.

The person who charges for the time, is responsible for the managing of the said time!

 

[Victoria M]

Red Stiletto ... you lead me to no other conclusion than to believe you're truly nutty : )

I was beginning to question my own existence, but that's pretty much normal ... indeed, I heard your cries, but your pm isn't enabled :

 

[This is my avatar]

communication is the key, so i say both

 

[wonderer]

Pool, I wanted to inquire about the Who as I may do an opening
for a band, you know when a band does tributes to other groups.
I had wanted to know a good CD of theirs to familarize myself
with their material. I know 1 or 2 of their songs but I want
to know the best one, so I can, I guess, prepare myself for
this opening. I used to know someone who toured with The Who
and knew stuff I could of found useful, but I cannot get in
contact with them anymore.

I am suprised that my "Welcome Back, I missed you, I'm glad
I know it's you" was met with some hostility. From someone
who had no problem chatting amicably with me before, you
for some reason changed your tune. I 'm not sure why. I talked
to someone who was at the massageplanet.net party, which is why I said,
"I know, who's who's now". For some reason, you took the
exact opposite of my message and turned it negative.

In the "Dealio thread" I said "Pool, say it ain't so". The
response was that you and Paul were one in the same. Whether
by joke, or school yard games, I was given a response to a
question I asked. If it was a joke, why am I to blame for saying that I'm glad I know it's you. You don't have to PM me to say "Red, it's me, Paul's f***ing with you" That would have been sufficient. Because I trusted you to begin with. I expected
that through our various chats and your moderator experience
that you know I meant something positive, but it was conceived
as something negative. I was trying to enforce the fact that
I believe in you. I don't discuss "personal" issues about
MP's, MPA's, etc...I feel it is unfair to post info about
the info of the industry/MP/MPA. I thought everyone seen that. The saying "No good deed goes unpunished" it very true. I tried
say, I know your pool, but it was met with an opposite
insinuation.

I don't feel I have played a "Keep em guessing game" and I
frown upon members knowing who I am. Now, to settle everyone's
curosity I will tell you why. Earlier on when I first started
to post, someone hacked into my IP or my PM or my computer information. I mentioned this to Sheik, several months ago,
but I was so alarmed and frightened, that I deleted the message,
and did not talk on massageplanet.net for about 2 months. Hoping the "whoever"
would lose interest. I thought I could monitor frequent
strange questions about me and try to recognize the original
handle. The information in the PM was Personal info about my
vicinity, which no one could know without checking into
stored data or whatever about my IP.

I am not "keeping anyone guessing", and my first motive to
write on massageplanet.net was to dispell the theory that some MPA's have about massageplanet.net members. I didn't want to believe that men on this
board were all "jerks". I was right. There are many, many, kind
wonderful people on this board and maybe it helped me to remember
that no matter what other's say, try to find the good in the
masses', I really just wanted to know you guys better and
understand the male pysche more. To talk about the industry,
to better understand how improving service is a benefit to us
all. Especially me. Knowing important details about "good
service....sweet turn-on..etc.." helped me serve you better.

I didn't really expect the reaction you gave me. I thought
were on the same team. I expected the same comical, goofy
Pool I enjoyed talking to. I'm sorry if my words came across
in a different way. I did not think you would think that at all.
But I must be Nutty, Nutty to think you understood where I was coming from.

But it's okay, I took the knife out of my back!

 

[cool person]

Red Stilleto,

That gig sounds pretty cool. In that case Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy still remains my recommendation. It has all the best of their older songs. I haven't been keeping up to date over the past 20 years or so, but you should check out this 'remastered' compilation maybe as it's a more complete compilation including later 70's stuff [yet is still concise] : Then & Now 1964-2004 If you really wanna get into it the movie Tommy is worth checking out - at least from the mind of a 16 year old pool : ) 'Live at Leeds' [where I once lived FWIW] is another option.

I'm really not sure where the confusion lies here. I think maybe I was too flippant or nonchalant in my quick reply, but even then I'm not quite getting where you perceive hostility from. Believe it or not, sometimes I feel uncomfortable with attention, even though it's appreciated. I read your first post over and I still read it as I first read it, which was with anything but negativity on your part and exactly as you have explained it in your last post [which I had to read over a few times in order for it to digest] I I find you to be an exuberant and zestful person, which is very likeable and I tried to convey that in the PS of my last post, but over time I seem to have become somewhat "constricted" or maybe gaurded on some level in my expression on open board.

Sometimes I can be very dry in my humor and much of what I say is tongue in cheek on some level. Maybe you sensed sarcasm where none was intended, which is understandable given the limitations of conveying tone via the 'net. What I said in that "dealio" thread is true, but there is one "twist" which I wished I could have let you know without having to let others know, because the last thing I want to do is yank your chain so to speak. Although the belly chain, thong & stilettos was hot : )

I didn't mean to imply you are playing a game in any sense either. It was just a passing remark based on what I'd previously said and the fact that there is no doubt people will be trying to guess your identity as an MPA. Funnily enough, I'm usually very careful how I word things, but let my guard down with you, because I felt I can. My comment was abt the guessers not you.

I'm sorry to hear abt your info being hacked. WTF is wrong with people. Well, actually that's rhetorical. As I read your reasoning for being on massageplanet.net, it's really not far off what part of my perception was as it's pretty evident.

There are many traits I appreciate in a person and two of those are "thoughtfulness" and "insanity". When I say insanity I mean a zany sense of humor based on what is in fact a thoughtful interpretation of life. Hence "nutty" - meant in the best possible way. I tell Rusty on occasion that he's seriously fucked up, but he knows I mean that with the deepest of affection, and no, I'm not being facetious.

Now, if you could just get rid of that dagger and any other evidence, can we kiss and make up so to speak. OK fine, that was a feeble attempt at LFK.... heheh ... no, really in all seriousness I hope we can ... anyway, it's late and my brain is seizing up on me, but I just wanted to to reply to you and maybe I didn't address it directly, but then again when have I ever been direct and to the point.

We really have to stop meeting like this ... not stop, as in stop ... nevermind : )



love, peace and insanity,

pool





To the other nice folk who wish to post in this thread, just ignore me and move along as usual

 

[Andrew Q]

Pool,

Flippant, is a good word Pool. It was flippant, it was late,
you were tired, I was tired. Yeah...I know it is a computer...
but your feelings came across loud and clear, but I'm sensitive, but if you insist they were harmless...I have to believe you right?
Your Post Script was added later after your edit, it wasan't there, when I first read the thread. Now, don't remove it and
freak me out Poolie.

If there is a for anyone need to call me nutty, fruity,
strange, just put a little, tiny, smilie beside it. So I can say, aw..Pool still loves me. BTW, how do you guys put the smilies' beside something you just said?


On the other note, The Who, this a for a future date, somewhere
else, not a very big venue. I kind of feel akward that they asked me....I said I know a couple of songs, but I'm not that familiar with The Who. Do they just want a hot chick in patent
leather and stiletto's to make the intro's. Go Figure? It
was not even a guy that asked me to do it...it was a girl.
I think she's hot for me.
Thank's for the link. I did not want to go up on the stage with
the mic and say.."Yeah, this is that song...you know..from the
album with the picture...from the year..uh...19..." I didn't
want that to happen.

Danka

 

[you love to hate me]

I do think it's a shared responsibility......a "team" effort so to speak.
If you're quick on the draw, she should be told this.
Likewise if you're slow to react.
That'll allow her to work with you to a mutually positive ending.
Keeping quiet and hoping she can read you 100% will ultimately lead to a poor conclusion at some point.

 

[Cihle]

The first time a client and attendant meet - things can be a bit tricky because she is trying to time things appropriately.

It really does help us if the client gives a bit of warning as to how long thing will take at the end - or if we need to be careful that things don't happen too quickly.

If things do happen too early - you should still get your full alloted time.

It's always nice to have a few minutes to relax before jumping in the shower at the end of the session.