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Sports massage training - advice please!

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Hi i wonder if anyone can advise me on the best sports massage course to do. I have looked at NLSSM and Active Health group. Active Health group is miles more value for money and does an intensive course which would be great. Howver, NLSSM/LSSM advise that the longer courses are better as you have a chance to practice techniques etc. Both seem to cover alot - I want to be able to work without supervison and the 2 different schools are affiliated to different associations. Which is the best one to be part of so i could work independently and gain the most recognised qualification Hope you can help! [sm=1syellow1.gif]
 
Hi Nics,
im going to be biased because I did the Active Health course, and i did the intensive format. I have to say that I did an ITEC sports massage, which was useless and that was done over a few months, but it was useless. On the Active course in the first week I got the chance to practice on genuine clients which they provided from their own clinics. The way i did it meant that I was could practice, practice, practice, which we students used to do every single night of the week.

I have seen that LSSM dont advise intensive courses, but thats because they dont run them. Active run 3 formats, an intensive, an 10 weekend, and a 10 month, and I have met graduates from all formats, on CPD workshops, and everyone was equally as capable. At the end of the day you can practice for a year when you are training, but if you dont have supervised practice, then you dont know if you are going wrong! At Active, the trainers would stay behind untilthe last student left, sometimes aslate as 9pm, so that they could provide supervision.

NLSSM is part of SMA, but I received information that Active are also working with SMA, now that SMA have sorted out their own internal issues. LSSM is no longer part of SMA.

On a seperate piece of advice, the sports therapy industry is going through state registration, which means that once its through, a sports therapist will have a protected title, and will be classed as an 'allied medical professional' on the same level asa physiotherapist or other HPC registered profession. Sports Massage is not going through this process, so it will probably always be banded along with every other complementary therapy. In my opinion, if you were to do a course you should do Active's level 5 sports therapy course, which is 5 days longer than their sports & remedial massage course.

Good luck which every route you take!
 
hI,
FROM ABOVE POST, THE ADVANCED SPORTS THERAPY COURSE IS NOT JUST 5 DAYS LONGER, YOU ALSO HAVE TO DO MORE CASE STUDIES AND DOCUMENTED HOME STUDY NOW THAT THE LEVEL 5 QUALIFICATION HAS BEEN RECOGNISED BY ASET
 
HI thanks for both your help its helped me come to a decision. I did look at the advancedsports therapy course which looks great and the tutors all seem really helpful - canyou join the society of sports therapists after doing this?

cheers
 
you can join society after doing the active course, but you cant if you do the NLSSM or LSSM
 
Personally (at the risk of upsetting the 'Active Health Group' lobby) I would have thought that the answer to nics' question about which is the more recognised association depends on whether you want to be a 'sports therapist' (in which case I would agree that STO is the better bet), a 'sports massage practitioner' (there has been a lot of previous discussion on this forum, but I still think that the SMA provides the best job opportunities, although its affiliated schools don't seem to offer the best training) or a 'remedial massage therapist' (in which case I would be inclined to recommend ISRM).

There is probably scope for a separate thread to explain the differences between a 'sports therapist' and a 'remedial massage therapist'!!

Regards

Alan
 
Hi Alan,
I agree with the STO/SMA link there, I enquired as to whether Active Health Group are going to become affiliated to SMA, and the answer is what I said above, yes. Still in my opinion, now that SMA allow all levels to join, i.e '2 dayers' at level 3, I think it sort of weakens the structure a little.That being said, I am a member of STO, as I get lots of opportunities through them, and I am going to join the SMA.

Re ISRM, this has quite blatantly been set up because of the LSSM not being part of SMA anymore.They need an organisation to validate them, so they settheir own up. Not a totally bad thing, butI also think that the way sports therapy and sports massage is being marketed and promoted, the ISRM will be shut out of a lot of things that are happening, which will probably effect its members.

One thingI would add is that I researched into the industry long and hard before I trained, and found that the majority of the opportunities exist for sports therapists, as opposed to sports massage or remedial massage. These opportunitiescan only grow once the industry becomes part of the HPC registered professions.
 
Hi all,
without sitting on the fence here, I tend to agree with both AlanD and Myoman on the points they raise, However the issue of regulation is going to reqiure all these validating bodies to work a lot closer together than has been the norm.
I think the courses that are internally validated will be forced to move towards external validation sooner rather than later, especially now ACTUAL level 4 and 5 qualifications exist. The previous sports therapy/massage threads have ran their course and makes interesting reading. As an STO member I have been pleased with the back up and support I receive and with the continuing updating of information regarding HPC regulation but cannot comment about SMA other than I did not receive answers to specific questions i raised by both email and snail mail.
Best of luck whichever direction you choose to take.

PS I actually think that state regulation will not get through with its present application.
 
Hopefully I can offer greater insight into why the ISRM was formed. It's main objective is to develop sport and remedial massage training within the uk, by working with smaller schools who offer training at a level 4 (ISRM does not accept anything less than level 4). Under normal circumstances, smaller schools cannot receive external validation, as they do not produce the numbers, hence, by being under an umbrella group they can grow and be recognized while maintaining a high standard of training. As for why the LSSM left the SMA, I believe they felt the ISRM better represented their needs. As for training and being able to get jobs, actually the doors are very much open with sport and remedial training, practitioners are highly respected by the appropriate organizations as they have an excellent reputation for quality. As well graduates can work independently, open their own clinics, but most importantly meet the needs of the clients. I must admit, I too am slightly biased...
 
Hi its good to hear from you about the setting up of ISRM, however when you say about level 4 training offered by smaller schools, which schools are these and could you give me details of who validates their level 4 courses, this topic has again been discussed at length, but IMO courses that are "aligned or mapped to" level 4 are still level 3 unless external validation is taking place.
there is no limit on school size that restricts external validation, I suspect that the cost implications are the root cause, unless a school is training students week in and week out, there is no way that they will be able to bear the costs assosiated with the setting up of this level of course, the paper chase that is involved with maintaining documentation for validation and the actual cost of assessment of students.
i feel that I may be starting to re cover old ground here, lets hope that as I have previously stated , ALL validating bodies start to work together rather than pulling in different directions for what I think is personal reasons by some chairmen/women and board members. To take this industry forward is something to which we should all be aspiring irrespective of our allegance to STO/ISRM/ SST etc etc etc
Gaz
 
From there wibsite

External validation
The Institute is externally validated by Edexel/BTEC which is a national awarding body for vocational education and training. They have evaluated the ISRM qualification and graded it at a level 4 (NVQ equivalent) and oversee the Instituteโ€™s internal assessment procedures to ensure that high standards are consistently achieved.

The Schools

[link=http://www.theisrm.com/schools.php]http://www.theisrm.com/schools.php[/link]

HTH
 
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    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’šNEW ORIENTAL SPA๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, HELEN & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. HELEN is a young, slim & very sexy Vietnamese lady. She not only looks good, she IS good. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5โ€™4โ€ and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets
  30. aaro_991:
    Athens ga
  31. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage and...
  32. Dreaminn:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: KELLY, LULU & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5โ€™3โ€ with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services. LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim and beautiful with 34C Cups and incredible services..
  33. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy & Lina Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did.
  34. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves. She can bbbj like a queen, & is open to dfk & cfs.
  35. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young new sweet Vicky with curve body and young pretty student Summer, young fun sexy Tina and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ2 new girls ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนAmy so sexy body ๐Ÿ”ฅbig boost very nice girl ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’Lucy so hot sexy service good deep tissue massage ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  37. HKWQ:
    Club Dynasty: Some of the shiatsu massuses are way too old!
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!! END YOUR WEEK WITH A WILD TIME WITH JAPANESE CHANEL & TAIWANESE ZOE 905-604-8186!!!
  39. bumika.vashi:
    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
  40. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ REWARD YOURSELF! KAJAL, CANDY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  41. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,New First Day Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Young Sexy Curvy Latina Karen, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  42. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CANDY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนevery day 3 girls ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนNew girl Vicy ,sexy body very good body slide ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐ŸฅฐCici Strong Deep Tissue,Jenny very good table shower body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Eva , Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Cici๐Ÿ˜˜A very beautiful and sexy little fangirl, she has a sexy and petite figure, Cici service is first-class, worth having and trying, she belongs to the elite๐Ÿ‘She is very friendly, very cute and exquisite little model!!๐ŸฅฐReal pictures
  48. NewOriental:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’šNEW ORIENTAL SPA๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: EMMA, HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ EMMA is a young & pretty Chinese babe with very liberal services. HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Ivy with curve body and young sweet Japanese Lily 36DD, sexy Coco and Pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Dreaminn:
    THURSDAY at๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: EVA, KELLY & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ EVA is a slim, pretty & sexy Asian girl. She has excellent bbbj skills if you are nice and clean, and can perform like a champion. KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5โ€™2โ€ with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services.
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