The cost of hobbying (killing us!!!)

Hobbying and woman in general have been more of a motivator to increase my earnings. Hasn't had a downside yet, but you never know.... I could get hooked on all five hour duo sessions! :0)
 
anyone want to start a poll on the board if you ever had an STDs?
and how long you've been hobbying?

won't be scientific, but will be anonymous and at least we can get some idea.
i'd doit but don't know how.
 
sweety I am starting to agree with you, we survived without them for so long. I really wonder what kind of life these girls have after they turn 50 and look like garbage and then start getting mean as the clients don't like them as much as they used to. Meanwhile the best years of their lives have been used to take huge risks. Not everyone who goes into these places is an upstanding citizen. Some guys have STD's try to kiss them , finger them, and worse. They get yelled at , called names, probably have to endur some violence if they are unlucky. Boyfriends/husbands who want them out of the business, and on and on and on, I agree it's a no win for anyone except the owners and the licensing board. Plus they don't pay any taxes and are making a fortune and no one is complaining about this, meanwhile the rest of us hard workers are getting taxed a crap load.
 
Whoa. Somewhere in there are a couple valid points, but they're buried too deep in the rhetoric.

Putting slavery situations aside, no one is putting a gun to these girls heads to work in the sex trade. They could work retail or office jobs. They choose not to, because those jobs are not as expedient, or as accommodating to their personal circumstances. the girls "win" too, if the are smart enough to see they job for what it is and use it to get ahead or get out of a bad situation.
 
I don't understand how people come in here and complain about this hobby like they didn't know what they're getting into. This is a hobby, something we need to release(no pun) those stress & anxiety of the day to day grind with work/family issues etc. etc. I'm not saying it's the solution to the problems but it makes you get away (for hh) and get back to the grind a little fresh. This hobby ain't cheap but cheap don't feel as good. If i was to start a hobby building miniature airplanes or some shit like that, fine but if it starts to take a whiff off my savings and affect mortgage and bill payments...the SO will be out of my life faster than LiLo in Rehab.
 
..Some of you get it, some of you don't. It's obvious who is who.
 
I agree with the " human train wreck " comment. Some of the massageplanet.netites here have actual experience dating these women. I know some one here will argue about this because they are one of the guys we call " pussy whipped " . You are taking your mental health for granted if you attempt to get close to one of these " human train wrecks " . Some of them have husbands waiting for them back in China, which I have heard from 2 different girls now in the industry that own businesses. Without giving away any names I am sure some of you have met them at least one or 2. Some of them have mental problems that the American Psycological Association calls NPD/BPD combination. Go ahead , google it and see if you have gotten really close to one of these monsters who failed in life and are now resorting to prostitution , because that's what this is, let's not kid ourselves. Some have boyfriends and have admitted openly to other girls they work with they have cheated many times on the boyfriend. I think to get into this business you have to have a low self esteem and to be a long time customer you do too. This is how diseases get passed , you can lie to yourself and say it's not but if you are honest you will agree . Some of them actually get paid money big money to go to someone's house for a fuck and this is all tax free. Ok I am not saying if I was a multi millionaire and I found a girl that I thought was the best looking girl I had ever seen in my life I wouldn't dole out a few $ too, but this is super risky at best, if the condom breaks once and she has something you don't know about, guess what? it's spread to you.
I think and hope I had an epiphany today that will keep me away from these places for the rest of my life. Today I got some great advice from a friendly owner and I am going to take it. I also suggest , to all of you , get off your asses get to the gym, get your confidence back and go after a " normal " woman. Although it's debatable if there is such a thing, but the ones that don't work in these places, you have a much better chance of finding a lifelong partner than one of these lying, cheating screwballs. Every bad thing happens for a reason, my bad experience and my experience today taught me a lesson that I hope will change my life for the better. I know some of you will heed my comments and others will just go about their business like nothing important was even said.

P.S. Today I met someone with a husband in China and a bf somewhere else in Asia and she admitted to this. One day I will write a book about what I call, " this tragedy from the croaching tiger " or something along that line. I believe after all the reading I have done, that Chinese mothers are responsible for this " plague " that has taken over Toronto. I call it horrible parenting, born in , well I just said where it's from. Last thing be careful everyone. These places attract seedy characters , I don't want anyone here to be a statistic , think about the risk and access if it's worth it for you. I know the answer for myself.
 
LOL ummm thanks massageplanet.netid. 8yrs in a room, almost 2yrs out of one. I remember when I 1st saw you too. Not sure about the turn my life around comment. My life has been full of amazing things, and the rest has earned me my stripes I wouldn't trade it for anything!!



Well, with extreme stories like the kind the OP mentioned, I highly doubt the hobby or the job f**ked them up. Thats more about their entire lives out of balance. And that can happen to anyone, anywhere.

This is a great thread/discussion!!
 
Poignant, profound, prodigious. Are you massageplanet.net's most interesting member?
 
What I want to know is if there are any veteran Hobbiests who have been able to maintain a marriage while seeing mps without ending up like scenario #1, herpes, warts and and infected wife on the way to divorce. I've been at it for 3 years, so far so good. I try to avoid pussy slides at all costs, but sometimes a girl gets a little over aggressive and stuff happens before you can do anything about it though..
 
Lots. Not having sex with your wife helps. and being careful in all other aspects (finances, whereabouts, schedule) is key.
 
I started "hobbying" when my marriage went bad. I have been very lucky in terms of my favorite MPA and a certain fav. at a downtown strip club. I had a negative turn on my income recently, and they understand my cutback. I don't smoke, and I don't drink much, live in a no frills bachelor apt. - and I m happy being single, so I still allow myself the occasional pleasure.
But the future Mrs. Smith (some of you know the joke) is part of my life and she understands that i will see her a little less - for the time being. I would not be a repeat unless I truly liked her as a person and she truly liked me...and I know that is all it is. Damn I sound too sensible.
 
Thanks for the definitions. I wasn't aware that so many services were available at non-Chinese MPs.

Both of my favourites (the only ones that I have visited these past 4 years) - first, Amazing Spa in Brampton, second, Delux in Markham - were busted and closed down.

I would have thought STDs in MPs was low considering the services they provide, but I guess this mid-40's dude may be out to lunch.
 
Amen to that. It's always something that happened to "some other guy I heard about"... There's been no shortage of massageplanet.netites second guessing their hobby on this board lately, and yet isn't it interesting that if you combined all the MPAs that everyone has collectively visited on this thread alone (surely thousands combined) there's not one person sharing a first hand account of picking up a disease and breaking up his family. From your other posts Sweety it sounds like you have first hand knowledge of every spa / MPA in the business, so why is it necessary to reference some sensationalistic news article from years ago rather than your own personal experience? You donโ€™t have to ban the business for the rest of us - simply exercise your โ€˜noโ€™ muscle. For both the clients and the MPAs, everyone's participation in the business is optional. If you don't like it, opt out.... don't suggest legislating everyone else's freedom if the real problem is that you can't control yourself.
 
Oh, we hear about the train wrecks. The posts come up every so often.

Anecdotes provide a flawed sample.
 
I wouldn't call pussy slides as the equivalent to coitus in risk. If no condoms, a lot have saran wrap. Customers have been noted to bring condoms for 'fingers' if not for the intended purpose. I would agree about risk being higher with less reputable establishments (you referred to the Asian places but I can't say). I've been asked to put on a condom when doing a pussy slide with an independent massage provider. I bring protection just in case, but always have some in my car in any event.
 
I doubt that hobbyists see SPs or MPAs in search of their soul mates, and those providers really don't hustle to garner a man's affection for business.

If you want to warn men about the dangers of getting involved with women who are more interested in your wallet than you as a person, I would say that this caveat applies more with respect to exotic dancers or even good-looking civilian golddiggers at bars or clubs.
 
I would bet bodyslides to pussyslides that the majority of us are caught up in a masquerade to camouflage flaws and weaknesses in ourselves.

Why kid ourselves? Shed the masquerade and what is left? The emperor has no clothes and the mirror is reflecting who we truly are. Our souls are then left true and naked.

Welcome to yourself.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Thirsty Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” JBB Lulu, Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Sasa, Sara, Cici & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  35. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, SANA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  36. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reinella wellness, Jenny, Angela, Queenie, Pinky, Grace, Sasha, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  37. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Noor are her today ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  38. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 open mind Cuban girl (Mimi ) &Asian girl in today
  39. Newspring@:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Singapore ๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธindian girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open to 9pm: *New Girl BELLA: is a cute European lady with blonde hair & blue eyes, busty E Cups, curvy body & sweet slow service. KITTY): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„ new girl Judy very good looking,big breasted service queen,girl friend experience,๐Ÿ’„Mina is long hair sexy ,she know what do you need,must try๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ
  42. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer -๐Ÿ”ฅA sexy sultry part time Korean student with a wild and crazy addictive pe
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    ASHA, ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ANAYA, ANGEL, LUCY, NISHA, MEERA, ANGELINA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  49. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  50. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience. COCO medium build
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