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Emily B

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I’ve got to find a new MT – the ladies I’ve been seeing are so busy that it’s hard to get into see them, on a short notice… So now I get to go through the whole – are you a pleasant older gentleman, who wants a relaxing, invigorating massage OR are you a pervert who wants something else….

Remember the movie “Babe” – the pig has to learn to herd sheep and get’s a secret phrase – baa ram you – that proves to the sheep that he is trustworthy and has no hidden agenda…

Other than advising the new MT that my regular is busy & being myself, is there a secret phrase or simple way of getting by the – are you a pervert??? thing…

Thanks - g
 


Let your therapists know you want to continue seeing them, but need to also find a back up therapist that is not so busy on days when you need to be fit in as a short notice client. They may be able to just refer you to someone they know.

Also, ask if you can use them as your reference when contacting any new therapists in your search. If they are comfortable with that, then you can tell your prospective new therapist you have been recieving work from such and such, and provide the phone number in case they have any questions. HIPPA may apply here (I am not sure), so you may need to have your therapists put a signed release (by you) in your chart at their place of business. As I said, I am not sure about that though.

I'd think both of these ideas will work wonders.
 


If you are happy with the therapists you have been seeing, why not rebook an appointment with them before you leave their office? That way you would already have an appointment and not have to worry about introducing yourself to a new therapist.
 


I can identify with the original poster. It's very nerve-wracking trying to make an appointment with a new female therapist and have them sizing you up, having their husband/boyfriend/security guard there to greet you, and/or worrying that somehow you might be a perv. Sometimes when I greet a new therapist, or particularily by email when describing myself, I start off by saying "I am an ethical client and understand massage is only therapeutic in nature." I also never say anything about abs or glutes, until they ask me about where I may be having discomfort. I still would never mention abs, just maybe something about digestive issues (which I do have) As a general principle, I think it is better to talk less, because especially over the phone, they may read into something you say which is totally not how you mean it. Also it's good if you schedule in advance and give them a couple dates you are available...so it doens't look like you want a same day appointment or that you are locked into one time period.
 


I haven't had that problem when exchanging with new female therapists or when I don't have time to do an exchange and just go get one. I know a lot of female's have issues with new male's but I haven't run into that.
 


Interesting... I treat all fairly, so you wouldn't have trouble with me unless you said something that would stick a red flag up in the air during our initial conversation.

As someone has already suggested, definitley book a time as you leave. You know how often you like to go, even if it is a month or longer from now... I am happy to take apoinments long before they are coming. I know if I am busy I will forget to call to make an appointment, and realize when it is too late, and I am in need of my massage.

As for dealing with the phone call... Suggested introduction: "Hello, My name is g425, I have been a client of Jen S. from JS wellness center for the past year and a half. I can't get an appointment with her for 3 weeks, do you have any time available that is sooner, maybe within the next week? Thank you very much for your time."
 


Also, ask if you can use them as your reference when contacting any new therapists in your search. If they are comfortable with that, then you can tell your prospective new therapist you have been recieving work from such and such, and provide the phone number in case they have any questions. HIPPA may apply here (I am not sure), so you may need to have your therapists put a signed release (by you) in your chart at their place of business. As I said, I am not sure about that though.

HIPPA requires that access to client data is "restricted to only those employees who have a need for it to complete their job function." A great resource for HIPPA regualations is http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/AdminSimpRegText.pdf
 


I think generally most women therapists (I say most not all) have very few issues treating men. For me anyways, the issue comes up when someone calls me Friday afternoon looking for a massage right then and there. Not knowing your schedule in advance can make things complicated when scheduling. However you will be seen as less "pervy" if you book an appointment in advance, and reschedule if you find the original appointment doesn't work (before the cancellation policy of said therapist)

The last minute nature is more of an issue for me than the male issue.
 


hargrcha said:
Also, ask if you can use them as your reference when contacting any new therapists in your search. If they are comfortable with that, then you can tell your prospective new therapist you have been recieving work from such and such, and provide the phone number in case they have any questions. HIPPA may apply here (I am not sure), so you may need to have your therapists put a signed release (by you) in your chart at their place of business. As I said, I am not sure about that though.

HIPPA requires that access to client data is "restricted to only those employees who have a need for it to complete their job function." A great resource for HIPPA regualations is http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/AdminSimpRegText.pdf

Access to client data is restricted, but the last time I went through all of the HIPAA rules and regs (not the administration proceedures you have linked to) in 2004 (which I'll admit is some time ago), you as a patient/client could sign a waiver to have your records released. In signing a waiver like this it gives the person in charge of your records the ability to discuss your case with another individual (the one/ones you have given the disclosure ok for).

In our case if we have a client or patient who needs to have records transferred to or discusse with his/her physician or some other entity they have to sign the Records Release Form.

What I am not sure of is massage practice in each individual state, regarding HIPAA. In Texas we have to jump through a different set of HIPAA hoops than some other states - which is why I mentioned it. HIPAA is all the same, but different massage entities in different states may or may not be required to use the HIPAA laws if I recall correctly.

Hope that clarifies my earlier post.
 


:) A client waiver for transfer of information is a requirement. I hope my post did not imply that it is not a requirement. I currently work in a hospital and we are tested every six months on HIPPA (and other things).

In layman terms in our environment (in a Texas Hospital) means that patient personal identifiable information is strictly confidential but can be shared with those that are working to treat the patient (consultation between medical personnel) and billing and payment of treatment. The waiver applies when working with those outside the employment of the hospital ~ such as contracted medical personnel ~ which loosely applies in this case. 

Here is a better HIPPA resource. http://www.hipaadvisory.com/action/compliance/communicating.htm - particularly this comment:

"Strictly-speaking, HIPAA Privacy regulations do not apply to providing treatment (or payment and healthcare operations), but rather to protecting the electronic transmission of PHI, and sound confidentiality practices have been in place for a long time."
 


hargrcha said:
Strictly-speaking, HIPAA Privacy regulations do not apply to providing treatment (or payment and healthcare operations), but rather to protecting the electronic transmission of PHI, and sound confidentiality practices have been in place for a long time."

Electronic transfer is a key phrase here. HIPAA has a lot to do with providers who bill insurance. A client asking one MT, verbally, to provide a verbal reference to another MT, could be completely outside the scope of HIPAA is neither of them bills insurance for the client.
 


At the hospital that I work, we do not send client information via email since email is relayed through different servers on the Internet and can be viewed on each - unless it is a SSL.
 


A good MT who has been in business for a while may be booked up for a while and not be able to take a client on short notice. We all have busy schedules (my husband and I should know, with more-than-full-time school, a long commute, and nearly-full-time-work), but I understand and appreciate quality (whether it's my MT, DC, CPA, hairstylist, whatever) and I will schedule several months out.

We always recommend to our clients that they book in advance, and we tend to take them a little more seriously (in general) than the short-notice person. (Of course, this can always depend on other factors, and there are always exceptions.)

Where there's a will, there's a way :)

Hugs,
~Jyoti
 
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    SATURDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: AMY, ELSA, EVA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups, very excitable and fun. ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, early 20’s about 5’2” and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure
  39. Birchmount&14th:
    SATURDAY at 𝐁𝐈𝐑𝐂𝐇𝐌𝐎𝐔𝐍𝐓 & 𝟏𝟒𝐭𝐡: JESSIE & *SK𝗬𝗟𝗔𝗥* Birchmount Rd & 14th Ave., Markham, ON. Call or Text for details and appointment. ☎️ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟵𝟳-𝟲𝟯𝟳𝟰 ☎️ 𝗝𝗘𝗦𝗦𝗜𝗘 is a slim and very sexy Asian girl with skills of the highest degree. *𝗦𝗞𝗬𝗟𝗔𝗥* has returned on Saturdays! She is a superstar & very well known for her skills.😃 We are open 24 Hours daily. We have clean rooms & free parking
  40. SunriseRH:
    SATURDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: SUMMER & TIANA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services. TIANA is a sexy Jamaican girl, 5’6” & 120Lbs, possessing 36DD-28-39 assets to drive you crazy.
  41. NewOriental:
    SATURDAY at 🍏💚𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔💚🍏: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  42. ASPA:
    SATUR𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Jenny and best massage Rachel. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36C’s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  43. Peony Garden Spa:
    🌸3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY 🌸 NEW GIRL ASHIA: A VERY YOUNG AND SLIM INDIAN GIRL, EARLY 20'S, 5'2 IN HEIGHT, LIGHT CARAMEL SKIN AND CAN SPEAK PUNJABI, HINDI AND ENGLISH FLUENTLY 🌸 MOON: A YOUNG SLIM VIETNAMESE STUDENT W/ A HELL OF A BODY AND VERY OPEN 🌸 JENNY: A SLIM AND TALL KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN 🌸 PEONY GARDEN SPA 🌸 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 🌸 (416) 335-6093 🌸
  44. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely big boobs Tiffany 😜😜😜and Angela Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young fun Yoyo 30 years old open mind with 36DD and young sweet student Sophia, pretty Ella and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 MONIKA,MALIYA, ASHA, NINA, PAOLA, ANGEL, AAVI, PAYAL PEARL, SANA, KIRAN🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️MAGGIE &* TARA. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. New Girl Tara is a young & pretty Asian girl with big melons and fun services.
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, & Ruby, *nicole tracy cindy RUBY is new today. Details to follow... Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true.
  49. Flowers Spa:
    ✰ BLUEXADO SPA ✰ 416.357.9797 ✰ 1102 Centre St, Unit #6 Vaughan 🇭🇰🇭🇰 CICI | SHERRY a HongKong woman, is of average height and build, with very smooth skin. She is gorgeous and friendly. 🇲🇾🇻🇳 MY LINH | LINDA a 21-year-old Vietnamese, offers comfortable and professional full-body treatments. 🇻🇳🇻🇳 HANNA Vietnamese good, energetic medium body; also does lighter treatments with emphasis on service. ✰ BLUEXADO SPA ✰ 416.357.9797 ✰
  50. PB888:
    fantasy spa
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