I have booked myself on a 31 week course for the above, does anyone have anything to say re: this course, anyone done it, it covers nutrition etc, all my therapies I have done have been VTCT (at a different college), but now I'm thinking is it any good
Biggest Massage Oriented Forums on the Planet - Massage.forum | MassagePlanet.net | Massage.live | Massage.chat
Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
- Joined
- Mar 24, 2010
- Messages
- 58
- Reaction score
- 0
- Points
- 6
there is a vast difference in standards of delivery, tutor qualification and experience. Have you met the tutor, there are stories of this years graduates being next years tutors. As has been said on this forum many times....if you do your research you will not be disappointed.
I am personally having an issue in the industry at present, I could go and do the same qualification in 2 days with a private training provider and get the same certificate as you will get. and a further 2/3 days and be an SMA/VTCT tutor at level 4. then qualify at VTCT level 5 with no further classroom work, just the metntion in the small print of 500 hours practice
BGFL
BGFL
I am personally having an issue in the industry at present, I could go and do the same qualification in 2 days with a private training provider and get the same certificate as you will get. and a further 2/3 days and be an SMA/VTCT tutor at level 4. then qualify at VTCT level 5 with no further classroom work, just the metntion in the small print of 500 hours practice
BGFL
BGFL
Hi Jo,
not to put a spanner in the works, but have you paid for your level 3 course? The reason I ask is that many CFEs are now running the level 4 course in sports massage, over the same period of time and from looking at the syllabus the VTCT level 4 course is the old level 3(!?!?!), so you may be best just going straight into level 4 if you have the opportunity.
I think if you have VTCT quals already you should be able to use these as a pre-requisite.
not to put a spanner in the works, but have you paid for your level 3 course? The reason I ask is that many CFEs are now running the level 4 course in sports massage, over the same period of time and from looking at the syllabus the VTCT level 4 course is the old level 3(!?!?!), so you may be best just going straight into level 4 if you have the opportunity.
I think if you have VTCT quals already you should be able to use these as a pre-requisite.
I'm new to looking for a sports massage course and a bit late so far as your question is concerned but I'd say you've done exactly the right thing by joining a VTCT Level 3 course particularly if it's the new course on the Qualifications and Credit Framework (QCF). It seems a very good course, particularly for colleges as it is fundable, has minimum required guided/supervised learning hours (GLH/230 hrs) that should sideline the fast track courses and as you note is a pre-requisite for entry to the Level 4 which if on the QCF stipulates a minimum 130 GLH.
As Biggaz said "there is a vast difference in standards of delivery, tutor qualification and experience".
It would be so much easier for prospective students if schools were made to deliver courses to the same standard, e.g, Active Health Group in Manchester have recently announced a Level 4 Certificate in Sports Massage that can be completed in 10 or 5 days with a 50 hour practice record. I'd guess that cannot possibly meet the 130 GLH + 100 hour practice record of the Level 4 QCF qualification so is also not going to give access to the QCF Level 5. Buyers beware!
As Biggaz said "there is a vast difference in standards of delivery, tutor qualification and experience".
It would be so much easier for prospective students if schools were made to deliver courses to the same standard, e.g, Active Health Group in Manchester have recently announced a Level 4 Certificate in Sports Massage that can be completed in 10 or 5 days with a 50 hour practice record. I'd guess that cannot possibly meet the 130 GLH + 100 hour practice record of the Level 4 QCF qualification so is also not going to give access to the QCF Level 5. Buyers beware!
- Joined
- Sep 20, 2009
- Messages
- 65
- Reaction score
- 0
- Points
- 6
Hi there,
you are 100% correct that the recently advertised course by AHG didnt meet the 130 hours, that was an older webpage that was published, so thank you for pointing this out! Thank goodness this was pointed out as AHG dont want to be tarred with the same brush as everyone else! (by the way it should have been 15 days, or 10 days if you are a physio/sports therapist etc with APL)
To meet the new criteria of 130 GLH a school should ideally be teaching for at least 15 days, however you will see that the vast majority of schools are falling way short.
If you take Barnes School for example, you will see that you can undertake the VTCT diploma in sports massage in 3 days plus 50 hours case studies!!! Their VTCT advanced diploma in sports massage is done over 65 hours in a week (so im assuming its 7 days at 9 1/2 hour days!!).
Tell me how this can be right?? Properly trained sports massage practitioners should be up in arms about this.
Carlton Institute is another good one, certificate in sports massage in one day, yes its an inhouse certificate, but you can pay an additional £100 odd pounds and receive the IIST (VTCT) qualification after you have completed a portfolio.
Your advice of let buyer beware is good, because these new VTCT qualifications arent all going to be accepted for regulation, or by any of the PAs that sit on the governing bodies, because QCF or not, if they dont meet the standard, they dont meet the standard.
you are 100% correct that the recently advertised course by AHG didnt meet the 130 hours, that was an older webpage that was published, so thank you for pointing this out! Thank goodness this was pointed out as AHG dont want to be tarred with the same brush as everyone else! (by the way it should have been 15 days, or 10 days if you are a physio/sports therapist etc with APL)
To meet the new criteria of 130 GLH a school should ideally be teaching for at least 15 days, however you will see that the vast majority of schools are falling way short.
If you take Barnes School for example, you will see that you can undertake the VTCT diploma in sports massage in 3 days plus 50 hours case studies!!! Their VTCT advanced diploma in sports massage is done over 65 hours in a week (so im assuming its 7 days at 9 1/2 hour days!!).
Tell me how this can be right?? Properly trained sports massage practitioners should be up in arms about this.
Carlton Institute is another good one, certificate in sports massage in one day, yes its an inhouse certificate, but you can pay an additional £100 odd pounds and receive the IIST (VTCT) qualification after you have completed a portfolio.
Your advice of let buyer beware is good, because these new VTCT qualifications arent all going to be accepted for regulation, or by any of the PAs that sit on the governing bodies, because QCF or not, if they dont meet the standard, they dont meet the standard.
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2009
- Messages
- 46
- Reaction score
- 0
- Points
- 6
hi Jo,
I think the CNHC regulator and Professional Associations working with the governing bodies are only approving these courses if they are 1) done at a CFE in the recommended hours (which yours is) or 2) done at an approved private school.
As an example the two schools I mentioned earlier, even though you can obtain a QCF qualification, would not be accepted.
I do know there is a meeting of the regulator and the awarding bodies, as these rules are still being flouted by quite a lot of private schools.
All the best with your training!
I think the CNHC regulator and Professional Associations working with the governing bodies are only approving these courses if they are 1) done at a CFE in the recommended hours (which yours is) or 2) done at an approved private school.
As an example the two schools I mentioned earlier, even though you can obtain a QCF qualification, would not be accepted.
I do know there is a meeting of the regulator and the awarding bodies, as these rules are still being flouted by quite a lot of private schools.
All the best with your training!
Interesting thread...
I started my course at Barnfield this last Tuesday it's over subscribed due to being half the price of most other colleges.
Last year I took remedial massage at Barnfield with the same tutor and thoroughly enjoyed it, we learnt far more than what was in the syllabus.
Myarka
I started my course at Barnfield this last Tuesday it's over subscribed due to being half the price of most other colleges.
Last year I took remedial massage at Barnfield with the same tutor and thoroughly enjoyed it, we learnt far more than what was in the syllabus.
Myarka
- Joined
- Jan 14, 2010
- Messages
- 52
- Reaction score
- 0
- Points
- 6
the main thing that disappoints me with the new QCF sports massage quals is not the content, nor the delivery time, its the fact that these are being deliberately flouted by some schools.
Im disappointed that SMA, as validating body arent addressing this more. I hope SportsMassage reads this, and deals with it, as there are STILL schools out there running these weekend courses.
Jo/Myarka, how do you feel that you are covering your course in 31 weeks, 155 hours, yet someone can obtain the same qualification in just 3 days? At 8 hours a day thats just 24 hours, and they will have the same qualification, and be SMA registered.
SportsMassage, if you do read this, I know we havent always seen eye to eye, but one thing that the SMA always had, which I respected, was consistency in their training programmes. I remember when it used to be 20 days of training to become an SMA member, what has happened??? 3 days!!??
Im disappointed that SMA, as validating body arent addressing this more. I hope SportsMassage reads this, and deals with it, as there are STILL schools out there running these weekend courses.
Jo/Myarka, how do you feel that you are covering your course in 31 weeks, 155 hours, yet someone can obtain the same qualification in just 3 days? At 8 hours a day thats just 24 hours, and they will have the same qualification, and be SMA registered.
SportsMassage, if you do read this, I know we havent always seen eye to eye, but one thing that the SMA always had, which I respected, was consistency in their training programmes. I remember when it used to be 20 days of training to become an SMA member, what has happened??? 3 days!!??
- Joined
- Feb 9, 2011
- Messages
- 43,916
- Reaction score
- 50
- Points
- 48
Hi ST.
Are you referring to the CNHC when you say regulator or the SMA? Also if the PA's (who are earning money out of these schools delivering their courses) don't respond what would the regulator, who ever it is do about it?
Are you referring to the CNHC when you say regulator or the SMA? Also if the PA's (who are earning money out of these schools delivering their courses) don't respond what would the regulator, who ever it is do about it?
Hi Aspire,
the CNHC and reps from the governing bodies of regulated professions are meeting with the awarding organisations (the people that actually own these qualifications), to sort out this mess once and for all.
A professional association belonging to the governing body, or recognised by CNHC CANNOT accept a graduate for membership or insurance if the course does not meet the standard, not the qualification, as we have seen time after time that a single qualification can differ, depending on where it is taught, so anyone studying at the schools I mentioned, will NOT be able to join one of the CNHC approved PAs nor will they be able to gain registration with CNHC, even though they have completed a QCF qualification.
In short, by not being able to get registered with CNHC, whether people like it or not, shows that the qualification gained is substandard. I always get a lot of flack for using the word substandard, but as I have always said, if something is below standard, it is 'sub'.
the CNHC and reps from the governing bodies of regulated professions are meeting with the awarding organisations (the people that actually own these qualifications), to sort out this mess once and for all.
A professional association belonging to the governing body, or recognised by CNHC CANNOT accept a graduate for membership or insurance if the course does not meet the standard, not the qualification, as we have seen time after time that a single qualification can differ, depending on where it is taught, so anyone studying at the schools I mentioned, will NOT be able to join one of the CNHC approved PAs nor will they be able to gain registration with CNHC, even though they have completed a QCF qualification.
In short, by not being able to get registered with CNHC, whether people like it or not, shows that the qualification gained is substandard. I always get a lot of flack for using the word substandard, but as I have always said, if something is below standard, it is 'sub'.
PS before anyone jumps on this before they read the full thread, im not saying the VTCT quals are substandard, I am saying that SOME of the schools offering it, are cutting corners and running it with massively reduced hours, which is obviously reflected in the price, and makes it more appealing to students who dont know the difference between an approved course and a substandard one (after all they may be the identical qualification).
I do think VTCT are on to this, however, I have yet to see some of the schools that have been complained about change their hours, so it seems that more complaints are due.
I do think VTCT are on to this, however, I have yet to see some of the schools that have been complained about change their hours, so it seems that more complaints are due.
The reason VTCT invited the SMA to help write and endorse its sports massage qualifications was because they were aware of unfavourable public perception associated with VTCT quals. We and they are desperate to raise standards and consistency in sports massage education---as we become aware of schools attempting to flout the very specific guidelines given---we deal with it. If they choose to ignore our advice then their graduates will not be accepted as SMA members. A practical issue is that we do not have a small army of staff to go out and check every single school in the country (perhaps you and Gary would like the job?).
Incidentally we are looking to become a verifying organisation for CNHC and have been in discussion with them for some time. We have no intention of standing in the way of our members who wish to register with CNHC.
On a separate but related issue-it has been drawn to my attention that FHT are accrediting courses for schools who apply to them then they are also verifying the graduates of the schooos they have accredited for the purposes of CNHC regulation. This seems to lack a bit of objectivity-surely verification should be done by a independent party. As a Director of FHT perhaps you would care to comment.
Incidentally we are looking to become a verifying organisation for CNHC and have been in discussion with them for some time. We have no intention of standing in the way of our members who wish to register with CNHC.
On a separate but related issue-it has been drawn to my attention that FHT are accrediting courses for schools who apply to them then they are also verifying the graduates of the schooos they have accredited for the purposes of CNHC regulation. This seems to lack a bit of objectivity-surely verification should be done by a independent party. As a Director of FHT perhaps you would care to comment.
- Joined
- Oct 5, 2010
- Messages
- 14
- Reaction score
- 0
- Points
- 1
I understand that fully....still doesnt mean they can run them below standard...
full response coming up
full response coming up
I can't wait-where's the other two?
- Joined
- Jan 11, 2011
- Messages
- 6
- Reaction score
- 0
- Points
- 1
Hi Paul,
firstly thanks for coming on and responding....I love HP for this! Im on my way out and would have hated to have to wait until tomorrow!
Its great that SMA are recognising CNHC as the regulator, that means a great deal to the profession and to SMA members, and it looks like the whole of the profession is moving in the same direction, its what we all need.
On the matter of 'policing' schools, I appreciate you are a small team, VTCT however are a HUGE concern, and I really have to disagree that you cant possibly monitor all the schools. If I can do it for CNHC (free of charge), then im sure as a validating body it is your duty to do it. That said, I admit that for the past 10 years I have been watching schools as part of my own market research etc, which is part and parcel of running my own company, so I find it easy to do, and I am quite happy to help point you in the direction of some of the schools that are giving both you and VTCT a bad reputation, because I know we want the same things here.
On the matter of FHT, without specifics I cant comment, however I will say that any graduate of a school that I have passed to them, which doesnt meet standards will not get FHT membership and insurance. In the sports field, im afraid I cannot say that is the case with SMA, and that is the troubling thing.
I have just re-read what you have said, and you are saying that you dont think FHT should be verifying CNCH registrants if they also verify the school? If that is what you are saying, then I dont understand? That is exactly the same thing that you are applying to CNHC to do. By giving validation to the qualification, you are validating the school, and therefore when the graduate wants to join CNHC, you will be validating that. Its the same thing.
As I mentioned before, and I will use Barnes School as an example, they run the VTCT course at level 3, in 3 days, FHT would not accept this for membership and insurance, the graduate would however, automatically have SMA student membership, because that is the deal you have with VTCT, and then obtain full membership and insurance once they have graduated. So after 3 days of practical training, they can be level 3, and then a further 65 hours, they can be full level 4 members.
Surely, surely, surely, you cant agree that this is right and proper?
When it comes to FHT accreditation, if a school doesnt meet the standards, they dont get accreditation.
firstly thanks for coming on and responding....I love HP for this! Im on my way out and would have hated to have to wait until tomorrow!
Its great that SMA are recognising CNHC as the regulator, that means a great deal to the profession and to SMA members, and it looks like the whole of the profession is moving in the same direction, its what we all need.
On the matter of 'policing' schools, I appreciate you are a small team, VTCT however are a HUGE concern, and I really have to disagree that you cant possibly monitor all the schools. If I can do it for CNHC (free of charge), then im sure as a validating body it is your duty to do it. That said, I admit that for the past 10 years I have been watching schools as part of my own market research etc, which is part and parcel of running my own company, so I find it easy to do, and I am quite happy to help point you in the direction of some of the schools that are giving both you and VTCT a bad reputation, because I know we want the same things here.
On the matter of FHT, without specifics I cant comment, however I will say that any graduate of a school that I have passed to them, which doesnt meet standards will not get FHT membership and insurance. In the sports field, im afraid I cannot say that is the case with SMA, and that is the troubling thing.
I have just re-read what you have said, and you are saying that you dont think FHT should be verifying CNCH registrants if they also verify the school? If that is what you are saying, then I dont understand? That is exactly the same thing that you are applying to CNHC to do. By giving validation to the qualification, you are validating the school, and therefore when the graduate wants to join CNHC, you will be validating that. Its the same thing.
As I mentioned before, and I will use Barnes School as an example, they run the VTCT course at level 3, in 3 days, FHT would not accept this for membership and insurance, the graduate would however, automatically have SMA student membership, because that is the deal you have with VTCT, and then obtain full membership and insurance once they have graduated. So after 3 days of practical training, they can be level 3, and then a further 65 hours, they can be full level 4 members.
Surely, surely, surely, you cant agree that this is right and proper?
When it comes to FHT accreditation, if a school doesnt meet the standards, they dont get accreditation.
"Jo/Myarka, how do you feel that you are covering your course in 31 weeks, 155 hours, yet someone can obtain the same qualification in just 3 days? At 8 hours a day thats just 24 hours, and they will have the same qualification, and be SMA registered."
I've given my answer already-----I'm just intrigued that you think we would accept such graduates as members of the SMA. Richard I'll give you a challenge as you and your colleagues are fond of criticising the SMA. Have a look through the FHT practitioners list at those who describe themselves as Sports Massage Practitioners-----take the first 100 or so based in London. Let me know how many of these 'Sports Masseurs' have a qualification worth the paper it is written on. In fact anybody reading this have a go----some of the associated websites are quite brilliant.
I've given my answer already-----I'm just intrigued that you think we would accept such graduates as members of the SMA. Richard I'll give you a challenge as you and your colleagues are fond of criticising the SMA. Have a look through the FHT practitioners list at those who describe themselves as Sports Massage Practitioners-----take the first 100 or so based in London. Let me know how many of these 'Sports Masseurs' have a qualification worth the paper it is written on. In fact anybody reading this have a go----some of the associated websites are quite brilliant.
- Hollywood_Spa:
❤
a cozy, clean spa at 4578 Yonge Street, unit 100 
Saturday, ❤
Olivia, 
tiny girl, pretty, long dark hair. Friendly and has a very relaxing touch, you're sure to enjoy
Sisi,
very slim build, medium height, can do firm treatment and over the top service. Cheerful personality and always thrilled to see you 
416 222-5554 - Withme_Spa:
❤at 4386 Sheppard Avenue east,
Saturday, ❣ Anna, model like appearance, slim, and sexy body, very pretty and friendly. Great treatment and service. ❣ Ruby,
medium height and sexy build with shapely legs and ass. friendly, does a very relaxing treatment and wonderful finish... comfortable treatment Amy, average height, slim build, very pretty, does a very personalized treatment that you are sure to love.
416 297-7488 - Sparkling Spa:
YOUNG GIRLS SUMMER AND FOX WAITING TO BLOW YOU AWAY
(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US - bnwellness_wilson:
Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet open mind Yoyo and young pretty cute Ella, sexy Coco and fun GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
- Endless Joy Spa:
[GRAND OPENING] Endless Joy Spa 
(155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565Young Fit Sexy Latina Karen, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel. - Moon&beauty:
MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl Jasmine today
- Jenny’s Spa:
JENNY’S SPA 
5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST 
ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4 (647-893-5196)Call or Text (437-888-3759)Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 
GRAND OPENINGNEW GIRLS EVERYDAYEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS
TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAYREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple - Brand new girl from Taiwan - Moneylee:
All season wellness center : Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,
address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E24376655510 
️️
- Moneylee:
Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lucky, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 4379857899 ️️
- gold__rose__spa:
🏵 at 1536 Warden Avenue 
Saturday, Lucy, tall and slim, toned and in shape, nice boobs, very white, smooth skin. customer service oriented. Pretty and friendly. and, Fifi, 
647 346-8086 - GoldenFlower:
SATURDAY at
GOLDEN FLOWER SPA , 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Misa(to 7pm), Monica & Sherry. After 7pm: Mila & Mimi Misa is a young, pretty & petite Vietnamese lady, about 5’ tall with long black hair. She can provide a satisfying session. Monica is sweet, attractive and accommodating. Sherry is an attractive slim Asian - Dreaminn:
SATURDAY at
DREAM INN WELLNESS SPA: ELSA, NINA & SUGAR. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON 647-829-2983 ELSA is slim, petite & very pretty student, esrly 20’s about 5’2” and 105 Lbs. Elsa has an innocent look about her, but she can drive you wild with pleasure, and provides a great massage. NINA is a young and beautiful Chinese lady, 168Cms, - lemon_tree:
a discreet entrance at 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, 201 Saturday, .. Tina / Gracie.... average height and slim build, friendly and sexy, long dark hair, over the top service. and Lisa, 
647 348-2899 - Red_Pearl_Spa:
❣ at 4385 Sheppard Avenue east, 201 ❤ Saturday, ❤ milf Mary today for an amazing treatment... 5'5", long light brown hair, at least C, decent English and upbeat, cheerful personality. and Tammy, 647 352-1588
- Lulu1980:
Hi guys
Phoenix blossom Spa Tiffany sexy body big boobs very good body slide and Angela very good table shower deep massage 
5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke 416-817-3366 - SunriseRH:
SATURDAY at SUNRISE SPA: MIA, MICHELLE & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on 647-325-8086 MIA is a young Vietnamese beauty with the looks and the skills. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered. SUMMER is a sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure,
- ForeverWarden:
Saturday at
𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Misaki & Tracy, Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Misaki is a young and beautiful real Japanese girl with natural 34DD Cups and a great body. She is open to bbbj, dfk and cfs - NewOriental:
SATURDAY at
NEW ORIENTAL SPA: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on 647-381-2688 HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets - Annie Spa:
ANNIE SPA 7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6 (437) 818-8896 (416) 291-8879 (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY NEW MANAGEMENTNEW GIRLS GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Ivy is new girl in our branch, shy and sweet but also very vocal and needy, she demands your happiness and satisfaction. Slim body, supple soft breasts with long nipples and a toned bum bum will have you intoxicated by Ivy’s good looks
- HolidaySpa:
Saturday at
𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵Lucy & Maggie. Lucy is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. Maggie is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. - Sparkling Spa:
YOUNG GIRLS SUMMER AND FOX WAITING TO BLOW YOU AWAY @ SPARKLING SPA: JAP SENSATION CHANEL AND SASSY JENNIFER READY TO KNOCK YOU OUT(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
- bumika.vashi:
(((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
- Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸𝕐 MAY 4th , SATURDAY (905) 707-6866
Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, $40/50/60 for 30/45/60min Attendants: We have 
today 
DAISY LILIAN TINA NAT NEWSFLASH TINA & NAT & DAISY & LILIAN ‘ s BACK TODAY - Montreal 1969:
Elise seduction
- Lulu1980:
Hi guysPhoenix blossom Spa Mia sexy body big boobs very good body slide and Cici very good table shower ，Helen Deep Tissue Massage5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke 416-817-3366
- Aufan Spa:
SOFIE, ANGELA and MIMI are here today for your massage needs AUFAN SPA 635 PHARMACY Scarborough M1L 3H3 (647) 557-1407
- Endless Joy Spa:
[GRAND OPENING] Endless Joy Spa (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinese Suki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young CBC Rachel
- hiyamickey:
7 young petite sexy girls working @Reynaella wellness Address: 3555 14th Ave unit #7 Markham：905-470-8082
- bnwellness_wilson:
Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet cute Summer and young pretty fun Sally, young cute open mind Tina and beautiful GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North
- Moon&beauty:
MoonMoon/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st # 203 /new Asian girl Yuki &Persian girl Jasmine today
- SunriseRH:
FRIDAY at SUNRISE SPA: HAPPY & MICHELLE. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on 647-325-8086 HAPPY is a slim Korean attendant with great massage and other skills. MICHELLE is a young, curvaceous beauty, 5’2” & 130Lbs, 37DDD-31-41, a trim waist, and a nice butt. Come and be pampered.
- Jenny’s Spa:
JENNY’S SPA 5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4 (647-893-5196)Call or Text (437-888-3759)Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY GRAND OPENINGNEW GIRLS EVERYDAYEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAYREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
- NewOriental:
FRIDAY atNEW ORIENTAL SPA: LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on 647-381-2688 LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times. PHOENIX is a gentle sweet Filipina lady, 5’4” and 105Lbs, with 34C-24-34 assets and very open minded.
- Moneylee:
All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Michelle,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Mumu,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherryaddress: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E24376655510 ️️
- Annie Spa:
ANNIE SPA 7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6 (437) 818-8896 (416) 291-8879 (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY NEW MANAGEMENTNEW GIRLS GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Bella is a beautiful Vietnamese busty girl, very sexy, with RMT style massage and very good playful service. So friendly, and nice. Summer has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service.
- Moneylee:
Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cici , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . 2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 4379857899 ️️
- Lily Spa:
SANA, CAMILLA, SARIKA and KK are here today for your massage needs Lily Spa 2190 McNicoll Scarborough M1V 5M2 (647) 531-8288
- Lulu1980:
Phoenix blossom Spa
5124 Dundas W Etobicoke 416-817 3366table shower 
body scrub Mia sexy body good service Cici nice girl Deep tissue massage - Dreaminn:
FRIDAY atDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA: *NEW GIRL HONEY, KELLY, & LULU. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON 647-829-2983 HONEY (*NEW TODAY) is a beautiful slim Asian lady with an ample bosom, slightly curvy with a great ass. Her services are highly sought after. KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim, 5’3” with very liberal services.
- Peony Garden Spa:
2 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE PEONY GARDEN SPA 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 (416) 335-6093 - GoldenFlower:
FRIDAY at GOLDEN FLOWER SPA , 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Kelly, Linda, Monica & Sonia. Arriving after 9pm: Jojo Kelly is slim and pretty with very good services. Linda is a pretty Vietnamese cutie with nice melons, curvy ass, and great services. Monica is sweet, attractive and accommodating.
- ASPA:
𝗙𝗥𝗜𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗮𝘁 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: 𝗔𝗺𝘆 & 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹
𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲 AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage - HolidaySpa:
Friday at𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵Cindy & Lina CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did.
- ForeverWarden:
Friday at𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves. She can bbbj like a queen, & is open to dfk & cfs.
- Sparkling Spa:
OT YOUNG GIRLS WAITING FOR BLOW YOU AWAY @ SPARKLING SPA: JAP SENSATION CHANEL AND SASSY JENNIFER READY TO KNOCK YOU OUT(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
- Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸𝕐 MAY 3rd , FRIDAY (905) 707-6866 Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, $40/50/60 for 30/45/60min Attendants: We have
today DAISY SOPHIE OLIVIA NAT CHERRY LILIAN LUCY NEWSFLASH OLIVIA & NAT & SOPHIE & DAISY & CHERRY & LILIAN ‘ s BACK TODAY - bumika.vashi:
(((आपको बिना नाटक या नखरे करने वाला सर्विस चाहे तोह याद करना. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
- Selkirk:
For the most part, amps are very sketchy.
- Sparkling Spa:
HOT YOUNG GIRLS WAITING FOR BLOW YOU AWAY @ SPARKLING SPA: MUI CALIENTE STELLA AND SCHOOL GIRL SELENA (NEW!!)(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8 NO SPA LIKE US ANYWHERE NEAR US
- K96akhil:
Hyderabad
Similar threads
