Chat At crossroads with hobbying...what should I do?

Nice...wish you all the best. If there's anyone on here who's seen it all, it should be you so I wonder what your secret is to keep going after all these years...
It's not me. it's my little KJ. I think about balls, golf balls every day. He thinks about holes and bushes all the time. He woke up swinging this morning again..lol
 
If I recall, Ursus took up photography for a while.

Not sure if it's still substituting for this hobby.

Not unless I'm taking pictures of nude women...now that would be fun!
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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I've only brought liquor into the spa 3 times, all with regulars. Only one had shots with me, the other two declined. However, one of the MPAs that declined told me she does drink but only with one long-time customer of hers. Apparently, that's his kink and he has to drink to get off. Well, one day I was lucky enough to see her right after him. Let's just say, she was very tipsy and way more horny than normal (she practically jumped me as soon as we closed the door). I've always wanted to thank that guy and I'm looking forward to going after him again.
Long ago and not too far away, I took a bottle of very fine red wine to every session with a little hottie called herself Jade.
Lets say the wine was a great catalyst to amazing sessions. The spa BTW at that time had no problem with it.
 
That's it! If L or C did something out of the ordinary, that would be exciting as hell. But what are the chances of that and how many visits would it take to catch them in the 'right' mood?
"Make the mood". I believe that there are always some brilliant ideas out there...
Once I was waiting for Renee on the table after enhanced the setup a bit in a funny way.. she was laughing that loud that even took a pic of me (I hope to the her hall of fame:) the session was exceptional too...
There is always something that breaks the ice.
 
OP sounds like a drug addict just before he commits suicide. Whoring is an addiction like any other.

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Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
 
Well, an MPA and I have talked about doing cannabis together (I'm actually looking forward to it). Who knows maybe I'll die getting high with an MPA...definitely worse ways to go out.
Definitely utilize the edible options available online.
 
I hear you but what can I do outside my comfort zone "at the spa''? Any ideas?

Here's the stage I'm at. You know how much you enjoyed your sessions with Lucy and Coco. Well, if I'm keeping it real, my sessions with them did nothing for me. Don't get me wrong, the place itself was nice and clean, the ladies were pretty, friendly and definitely above average (for semis) but the experience was still very routine for me. Maybe folks are right and I should take a break to recharge...but I know myself. I might slow down for a bit but I doubt I'll exit completely.

...my sessions w/Lucy were always unexpected... really doubt you’d know our timing... maybe u need to let them take charge? Just a thought... she gave me a great shot @ COF finish once, she barely escaped... fun, u know?

...could PAY someone for COF finish, but meh, no mystery there...

...maybe u ironed out all yr kinks? If ever get cured of yellow fever, I’d try black & East Indian spinners... if not, maybe those jailbait chix at QQ... or high end SP... or just those cute Indy Asian SP like Asian Nicole...

...or supermarket milfs like Hangdai...

...how about going to that tiny spa with a few gems & ‘help them out’? The KJ life... lite... bunch of disposable gfs...

...fun finding MPAs that look like friend or colleague... FILF or CILF... therapeutic...

... I’d suggest Pornhub 4 ideas 2 try out, but MPAs way more exciting than porn 4 me...
 
In the past, I averaged about 45 visits to sex workers per year. Now, I am down to about 8 - 10 per year. Visit them when it is in your best interest - time, money, proximity etc. and you will be fine. Also, demand good service and tell the girl what you will pay. I always tell the girl what I will pay. I dont care about her posted price. I saw a girl last month that advertises $400 and I paid her $200. Another girl last year wanted $260 and I paid her $180. Explain to them why you value them at the price you are paying. Dont be rude or aggressive about it. Just state facts matter-of-factly.

In general, dont chase a sex-worker and pay through the nose to spend time with her - that's when it become's worthless. No woman has value except that value you place on her vagina. And as she ages, her vagina becomes alot less valuable than what you might have paid her years ago. Treat a woman, a hooker etc. like a used car and be logical about it. You will be fine if you do that.
 
Thanks for the suggestion and I do want to try this place one day. But correct me if I'm wrong, this kinda place is one where you'll want to spend at least a couple of hours at and right now, I usually don't have that much time.
It’s a great place to hang out for a couple of hours. Have a steam, sauna, hot tub a snack and a cold drink. All included in the price.
 
I used to hobby quite a bit in my younger days. Then after a long hiatus, I ventured back in probably around 3 years ago. As many on here know, I mainly stick with semi-legits as I do appreciate a nice massage and the more casual (i.e. less transactional) atmosphere.

However, lately I'm not enjoying my sessions as much. Mileage is at all time highs so that's not the issue but something is definitely lacking...maybe it's because although I'm getting high mileage at semi-legits, the ladies just aren't that experienced (or good) at these higher level services and I can no longer rely on that 'surprise' experience anymore to get me excited.

The way I see it, I have a couple of options...start venturing into the holistic / SP world with younger, hotter chicks that know what they're doing or just stick with a good massage and basic hj at semi-legits and forgo the higher level stuff. By not being concerned with the mileage I get, it would also allow me to explore and visit more new places (since I would only be expecting a hj anyways). Of course, I could mix it up and do a bit of both too...

Has anyone else found themselves in a rut before and what did you do about it? I'm very interested in hearing other's experiences with this...

Been there. It's simple, change it up. Too much semi legit? Go see an SP, there are so many options... from Leo List to agencies.
 
I generally take a break every 3 months and stay away from things ,then when you start back hobbiying again it seems all new again with new faces and pussy to explore all over again!, not to mention the bank account can regain some !
 
I kind of understand that once starting this hobby,it takes you to different levels and some people based on income have to slow down and most of us are getting even more into it to the point like our friend is saying ,that almost nothing pleases anymore.My self,I went to this stages also in my over 20 years of hobbing where after I would see one girl ,I would think about going to see another as soon as possible,sometimes in the same week.Then I had some years when I slowed down but almost never able to totally get out of it.It's very hard to advise because almost never works the way we think,once we got into this hobby.One think that I could say is that there is always gonna be another one that will create interest for you to the point that it will never end, as long as our blood is running to our veins.Try to think less of this and maybe will help finding the best solution and maybe change something in your life.Stay safe and enjoy life!!
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...
 
... this hobby made me really concentrate on my health... sure not only me! If u cut back / take break, could lose that hobbyist conditioning...

I've always enjoyed exercise regardless of hobbying but I know what you mean about at least trying to look respectable with the ladies...
 
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Haha, pretty sure whatever charm I 'might' have will not make up for my physical deficiencies when it comes to the premier girls...definitely out of my league. But I guess that's a good thing...and I do want to try one day.

That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.
 
That's the beauty of going to see one of the Premier girls. They're as high mileage or higher than the holistics. All you need to bring is cash. Just look at the reviews here.

But, I get where you're coming from. I think a lot of guys here do too. After a while, everything is just the same. I got to the point once where I could literally picture the entire session from beginning to end, including the dialogue. You gotta ask yourself, what do you want to do and what do you really want. Is your sexual journey over? Or is there more things from your bucket list you want to check off?

Me, I took a couple of years away from the massage scene and went strictly to SPs. In some ways, SPs were even. more predictable, but honestly, when it came to sex and sex acts, they were in general, better than MPAs. Sure, there weren't many surprises for me there, but by that point, I was so sick of the drama on the massage side that I found the SP side to be refreshingly clear. Of course, eventually, I found the SP side had it's own share of drama, but it wasn't as bad for me as I was smart enough this time to side step the shit that came my way.

Take a break from the usual routine. Go see some SPs. Or spend more money and go see the ladies at Premier and Seduction. Some of them are worth it. Or, just go cold turkey for a couple of weeks and see how you feel. Either you'll be so horny that you don't care that you've done it all before, or you'll lose your libido as soon as you envision another massage. If it's the latter, then you know it's time for a longer vacation away.

Thanks for sharing your journey...and yes, there's more on the bucket list to check off so I guess I'm not quite done yet 🙂

You may recall some of the advice you gave me way back when I first joined this forum. Looking back, I've come a long way since then. I remember being so caught up with my 'honey'...I was thinking about her all the time (like everyday) and would be so depressed whenever she took her annual trip back to China. She's still one of my faves but I'm in such a better place now. She's been in China for several months now and while I do think about her from time to time, I'm not 'sad' at all. It's a long journey and I guess each of us continues to learn and adapt along the way.
 
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    MONDAY at 𝐊 𝐒𝐏𝐀: GIGI, NANA, YUMI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟵𝟮-𝟳𝟱𝟲𝟴 ☎️ CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5’3” sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares with her massage and great services. GIGI is 22Yrs with a sexy body, 36C, 110 Lbs and waiting for you. NANA is a cute pretty Korean lady
  31. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at 𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HARI, LINDA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ HARI is NEW TODAY. Details to follow... LINDA is NEW TODAY. Details to follow... TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  32. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Jenny😍 is a beautiful young part-time student with a very sexy figure and big natural 34D breasts. She can give a great massage and very good open minded service. She knows how to please a man with her natural beauty and charm. She is a
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  34. SunriseRH:
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  35. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at 𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HAPPY & LULU 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  36. ASPA:
    𝗠𝗢𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: EMMA and RACHEL. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5’4
  37. Moneylee:
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  39. HolidaySpa:
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  40. Dreaminn:
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  41. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at 🫦❤️🔴♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Ruby & SUKI. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. SUKI is a young, slim, beautiful & very sexy lady, about 5’3” with nice soft C Cups. She is very well received for her outstanding gfe services. Be careful, SUKI is highly addictive.
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
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  43. Red Rose Spa:
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  44. Lulu1980:
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  46. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ HANA, NINA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  47. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Sunday :💋💋New white girl gigi💋💋kk- petite cutie who is a bundle of fun and pleasure. Jennifer- Friendly school girl with a nice body and matching services to...
  48. Moneylee:
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  49. Moneylee:
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  50. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 MALIYA, SANA, MONIKA, PAYAL PEARL, NIMRAT, AAVI, KIRAN 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
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