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Oh I am well aware of the good qualities. And I didn’t say it was entirely my ex’s fault. I don’t think I blamed her anywhere, did I? There’s a lot of good things in a relationship that you don’t get from one or two hour visits.
Nope I don't remember blame being thrown around just giving in (financially) for peace of mind. I can relate to that

And yes there are benefits from long term relationships although alot of people here will probably down play it

But we weren't talking about long term relationships. We were talking about getting married again. That's what had me surprised
 
Yeah, ngl sometimes that’s fun. So there’s this girl I had seen a few times. Aside from the first time, we have been physically intimate now to the point where we don’t even put up the facade of a massage. I don’t think I could ask her for one anymore. The last time though things got super emotionally intimate. Got details of her suicide attempts, etc. gah.. so yeah sometimes no strings is great but do it too many times with the same girl and someone is gonna get attached. :(

Eta: and to be honest, it feels weird giving her cash after she shared such intimate information…
The other good thing about transactional sex is you can just stop seeing them for awhile. No need to break up.
 
Appreciate where you are coming from but this started off as a thread about trusting MPAs.

You could always start a thread about relationship advice if you are so inclined my friend..

So in the spirit of keeping this thread focused on if you can trust spa girls, what about the spa owners?

I know lots of owners are also MPAs, so, here is an example of the common bullshit we all have to deal with:
In particular this lie - "🌹Our ladies are all in their 20s-30s well trained"
I have no idea what the point is.
Many girls there are in their mid to late 40s and more - this I know from experience.
It is the STUPIDEST LIE EVER TOLD!
I don't know about anyone else on here but I prefer 40 plus.
And it is almost impossible to guess the age of most Asian women anyway, and as an Eastern European Male I would never bet I could guess correctly.
So obviously there is an assumption the vast majority of men prefer under 40.
Is this true?
 
So in the spirit of keeping this thread focused on if you can trust spa girls, what about the spa owners?

I know lots of owners are also MPAs, so, here is an example of the common bullshit we all have to deal with:
In particular this lie - "🌹Our ladies are all in their 20s-30s well trained"
I have no idea what the point is.
Many girls there are in their mid to late 40s and more - this I know from experience.
It is the STUPIDEST LIE EVER TOLD!
I don't know about anyone else on here but I prefer 40 plus.
And it is almost impossible to guess the age of most Asian women anyway, and as an Eastern European Male I would never bet I could guess correctly.
So obviously there is an assumption the vast majority of men prefer under 40.
Is this true?
I think it is aimed at the guys in their 30s or younger who visit spas. Western guys can be deceived by certain Asian lady's ages, bodies that look better than most ladies 20 years younger. Saw one guy describe a lady I know as being 26, I know she is 48, but that slim shapely body is enticing and can put a spell on any man.
 
I think it is aimed at the guys in their 30s or younger who visit spas. Western guys can be deceived by certain Asian lady's ages, bodies that look better than most ladies 20 years younger. Saw one guy describe a lady I know as being 26, I know she is 48, but that slim shapely body is enticing and can put a spell on any man.

Agree, however, why post the lie OVER AND OVER AND OVER when they could just say nothing about ages. It is beyond stupid!
They put up the images, we can all see the girls are attractive.
Why lie when silence is effortless?
Do they not understand lies repel customers like Muskol repels flies!
 
Agree, however, why post the lie OVER AND OVER AND OVER when they could just say nothing about ages. It is beyond stupid!
They put up the images, we can all see the girls are attractive.
Why lie when silence is effortless?
Do they not understand lies repel customers like Muskol repels flies!
Fair enough. I actually called out a promoter for saying a girl was in her 20s when she was almost certainly 50. Not one of my finer moments, disrespectful, but at the moment I felt the same type of disrespect with regards to truth in advertising.

And I prefer ladies mid 40s and above, because they get what I am looking for and the best one's earn my repeated patronage by understanding that.
 
Ahh sorry for being so abrupt at disappearing. I had some emotional entanglements and that fucked me up. I just decided on Friday to settle with the ex and give her almost everything she’s asking for. Gonna shut this past chapter in my life, start a new one. Looking forward to that. I’m not sure how to mix actual dating life with this hobby. I suspect they generally don’t mix, but I want something way more than rental by the hour company.

The girls that we meet in this hobby are generally pretty awesome. I don’t know if I will ever find a woman that even competed with the average gal that I meet doing this hobby. But I think it’s a worthwhile pursuit.

So in the next couple of weeks I need to sign off on the house, the condo, the car, the restaurant. Sift through our belongings and figure out what I will take. Also find a new home. But Feb 1 is the start of a new chapter boys. I am excited and I am scared. I’m old, short and fat. I can only really address one of those three but without emotional turmoil of a divorce, at least I am free to start addressing that now.

How do I start dating again as a 50 yr old? Any suggestions?

PS. I had to log back on to finish some business via DM. That’s done now. Or will be by Tuesday.
holy freakin' jesus. Not sure about spa girls but definitely can't trust an ex. Despite agreeing to almost entirely all of her terms, my ex won't sign the final agreement, the one we agreed to Jan 31.

ffs. Relationship is over. Sign the damn f'n thing so we can both move on.

ETA: ok. So I spent the morning and probably spent like $1k on legal fees between my lawyer talking to me, talking to my ex's lawyer, and then talking to me, and all the emails and shit in between. In my financial disclosure, I listed some accounts. My ex knew of all of these accounts. And agreed that they are mine. but one account, I listed her as a spouse, as opposed to just opening the account in my name. For whatever reason, TD requires her consent to do anything with that money. So I added a clause into our agreement that she will confirm with any official within 7 days that we have parted ways. She objected to it. And when she found out she's listed on that account, she suddenly wanted half of that money she initially agreed was mine, saying that since I intended it for her, she wants her share now. That caused a flury of emails etc. Grrrrrrrrrrr.. Her lawyer spent lots of time trying to talk her down from that idea and it took my lawyer letting them know what we will start court proceedings on Monday if she doesn't comply, and will ask for additional legal and incidental costs as a result as well. So I guess she's now agreed to sign the agreement. We'll see if she does or not. ffs...
 
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holy freakin' jesus. Not sure about spa girls but definitely can't trust an ex. Despite agreeing to almost entirely all of her terms, my ex won't sign the final agreement, the one we agreed to Jan 31.

ffs. Relationship is over. Sign the damn f'n thing so we can both move on.

ETA: ok. So I spent the morning and probably spent like $1k on legal fees between my lawyer talking to me, talking to my ex's lawyer, and then talking to me, and all the emails and shit in between. In my financial disclosure, I listed some accounts. My ex knew of all of these accounts. And agreed that they are mine. but one account, I listed her as a spouse, as opposed to just opening the account in my name. For whatever reason, TD requires her consent to do anything with that money. So I added a clause into our agreement that she will confirm with any official within 7 days that we have parted ways. She objected to it. And when she found out she's listed on that account, she suddenly wanted half of that money she initially agreed was mine, saying that since I intended it for her, she wants her share now. That caused a flury of emails etc. Grrrrrrrrrrr.. Her lawyer spent lots of time trying to talk her down from that idea and it took my lawyer letting them know what we will start court proceedings on Monday if she doesn't comply, and will ask for additional legal and incidental costs as a result as well. So I guess she's now agreed to sign the agreement. We'll see if she does or not. ffs...
Going to a spa is so much cheaper! Young guys, pay attention!
 
Haha it is cheaper if this is all you want, but some of us want other things as well.
Sex can be addictive. It is not so cheap if you are going full monte twice a week. Maybe on old money but not on most sustainable salaries. Otherwise it does the trick for me. No harm in it.
 
Haha it is cheaper if this is all you want, but some of us want other things as well.
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According to my detractors I might be the Brainiac on the left...
 
Sex can be addictive. It is not so cheap if you are going full monte twice a week. Maybe on old money but not on most sustainable salaries. Otherwise it does the trick for me. No harm in it.
Oh I didn’t say there was anything wrong with it. If both parties get what they want out of the interaction and no one is harmed then let adults be adults. I was referring to the other parts of the relationship beyond just sex.
 
This girl is in a long term relationship yet has become close to me, even suggesting we become a real couple. She promises sex everyday...yeah right, once you become a couple, would be lucky to get it 3 times a week if I had to guess. Even if they have a good heart, hard to trust them...they just meet too many guys in their line of work.
 
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Oh I didn’t say there was anything wrong with it. If both parties get what they want out of the interaction and no one is harmed then let adults be adults. I was referring to the other parts of the relationship beyond just sex.
I know. I like people and to get to know people and cultivate relationships even with prostitutes. With these girls it works better for me if a try and deny my illusions. Anyhow, I hear you. You seem like a nice guy. More power to you.
 
This girl is in a long term relationship yet has become close to me, even suggesting we become a real couple. She promises sex everyday...yeah right, once you become a couple, would be lucky to get it 3 times a week if I had to guess. Even if they have a good heart, hard to trust them...they just meet too many guys in their line of work.



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She's in a long term relationship with someone else? Yes, I think her word might not be something you could trust!
 
This girl is in a long term relationship yet has become close to me, even suggesting we become a real couple. She promises sex everyday...yeah right, once you become a couple, would be lucky to get it 3 times a week if I had to guess. Even if they have a good heart, hard to trust them...they just meet too many guys in their line of work.

I know you know, but many of these girls will say anything if they think you will take them out of this business.
 
Hahahaha! believing that will bring a world of hurt on yerself!
>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~> "take them out of this business" not likely.
Once an option - ALWAYS AN OPTION
ALSO ~~~> in the RARE event you do take the girl out of the business,
you CANNOT TAKE THE BUSINESS OUT OF THE GIRL
It's a game not suited to the weak of heart or jealous type
Most of them don’t enjoy this business. They do it for the money. You should appreciate the context of that message that you responded to.
 
Context? I do 100% appreciate the context of the message - it is the point of my comment! Please do explain the Context I am missing here! And if you are referring to the fact "This girl is in a long term relationship" well, then my comment is 100% appropriate.

Generally speaking, MONEY is the LURE and the CURE to all problems in life - without it you will be destitute.

The Sex Trade offers vast amounts of Tax Free Cash without much knowledge, time or effort to attain the knowledge to build a career within acceptable societal norms. And, if we are talking about Asians and other nationalities, there is also the language barrier.

I am well-aware lots (not all) of the women hate that they have to resort to as Sting would say: "Sell Your Body To The Nite" However, and I ask you - how many women in the world DO NOT cave and sell sex to fix their insurmountable problems?

"Most of them don’t enjoy this business" - last time I checked - most People Don't Enjoy Their Work! It is THE condition of life my friend!

Also, as you've stated in your profile - "So many toys for the boys…", you have clearly identified the women in this business as TOYs! So, I'm not sure how you yourself view these girls/women/sisters/daughters/aunties/grandmothers... in this industry.

Maybe you should ask yourself this: How else could these sex workers make between $250,000 and $500,000 a year tax free? (I am aware some make a lot less and maybe some make a lot more}

I love almost all the women I have met in this business - they bring so much joy to my life I have basically ruled out dealing with civilians!
I do believe they provide an absolutely ESSENTIAL SERVICE and bring copious amounts of HAPPINESS and COMFORT to so many men they make often unbearable lives quite bearable if not joyful.

But let me reiterate, when there is an EASY CURE to life's problems and a problem comes up, the propensity to revert to previous PROFITABLE behaviour is almost ALWAYS assured...

So that is that!
Have you ever been poor?

Have you ever been hungry?

Have you had to rent a bedroom and share a washroom and kitchen with 4 other tenants?

I know more about this business than I care to share, but very very few ladies live a good lifestyle.

Everyone of these ladies looks at their clients and You as PIGS….they take long hot showers in an effort to wash the stench from their bodies from the stinking clients they serve.

If you truly “loved” your ladies you would not make such judgemental, uninformed comments.

Enjoy the ride and tip well!!

$250000 - $500000….🙄
 
I’ve only talked to a couple of MPAs about this. One rents a basement apartment for $1800/month for her and her kids, and hires out people to look after her kids while she works. She makes plenty but she knows well enough that as she ages her income potential just drops and is saving as much as she can. Another sends back money to her mom who’s taking care of her kids - and does whatever she can to earn as much as she can now. The latter knows what she is doing is bad for her health but she hopes the sacrifice is worth it for her family.

Sounds like a shitty situation all around for both of them.
 
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