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Your argument would hold more weight if Trump himself didnā€™t also act like Altaguetta, Jimmyd, and team where he picks up nonsense and conspiracies and spreads it around himself. Any other person in his position would get his cabinet to ā€œlook into itā€ before making any comment that would make him look foolish. Although, with his cabinet that is not saying much. I think those media outlets took a reflex reaction and said ā€œoh shit, here he goes again running his mouth off about something new with no proofā€ and hit the mute button. He did lie about 20 times a day.


Because it does beg the question, if he already had this information for about a year why all of a sudden is it coming out now in the final days of the election campaign if it was so damning. Why didnā€™t he have it when Biden and Sanders were still going head to head. Trump against a progressive would have been a Republican win for sure.

I know you must see the amusing side of appealing to reports from the very media that I'm accusing of misbehaviour.

I have to completely disagree with your comment about the relevancy of Trump's behaviour to my argument. The argument I'm making is completely unaffected by Trump's character. It's a thankless task to defend Trump, and for the millionth time I feel like I've got to repeat that I believe it would have been much better for everyone if he'd just stayed on The Apprentice--but that's all irrelevant to the point at issue. He could've lied ten times more than he did and it still would not be an explanation or excuse for the media's actions. Trump was a divisive figure, but the media magnified the effect by attempting to gaslight millions of people for his four years in office. The laptop story might have been the most extreme example we were treated to, but it is only one of many.

If we cannot even agree that the media's behaviour with respect to this laptop story was wrong, then we are simply not watching the same movie here. I still believe in the old maxim of disagreeing with an idea, but defending the right of an opponent to proclaim it. The fact that today that sounds as naĆÆve as it does is a testament to how far we've fallen.
 
I know you must see the amusing side of appealing to reports from the very media that I'm accusing of misbehaviour.

I have to completely disagree with your comment about the relevancy of Trump's behaviour to my argument. The argument I'm making is completely unaffected by Trump's character. It's a thankless task to defend Trump, and for the millionth time I feel like I've got to repeat that I believe it would have been much better for everyone if he'd just stayed on The Apprentice--but that's all irrelevant to the point at issue. He could've lied ten times more than he did and it still would not be an explanation or excuse for the media's actions. Trump was a divisive figure, but the media magnified the effect by attempting to gaslight millions of people for his four years in office. The laptop story might have been the most extreme example we were treated to, but it is only one of many.

If we cannot even agree that the media's behaviour with respect to this laptop story was wrong, then we are simply not watching the same movie here. I still believe in the old maxim of disagreeing with an idea, but defending the right of an opponent to proclaim it. The fact that today that sounds as naĆÆve as it does is a testament to how far we've fallen.
We disagree. I believe that if there was actually a story, which you apparently believe there is one but I do not since i believe a real story would have come out long before October 2020 as the laptop was in possession of the DOJ since 2019.

What I believe is the propaganda has changed over the last several generations. In days of past (or some communist countries today) a propaganda department of the government would control the messaging. But that drove suspicion from the population. Now, with social media, propaganda is much more covert and is all about flooding the airways with programmed nonsense and by having other people retweet it or share it on Facebook so that it takes a life of itā€™s own because people believe that if other people are sharing it then it has legitimacy. But a lot of that is nonsense and there are too many dumb people out there that will blindly agree with it and not even question if it makes sense. I recall months ago seeing a video of a former Alex Jones employee (donā€™t recall the name) who acknowledged that even Alex doesnā€™t believe the bullshit heā€™s peddling but it makes him rich so he keeps doing it.

What I believe is that people saw the polls and Biden was looking like a win then that propaganda machine started with the laptop story to stir up shit to try to salvage the election. Barr or other Trump advisors probably reviewed it all and said there was nothing there a long time ago but Trump being himself started spreading it further and Rudy followed suit.

The laptop story was really first and foremost about the Ukrainian situation. It later took a life of itā€™s own with the accusations of drugs and other stuff. But again, the DOJ had the laptop since 2019. If there was a real story it could have come out way back then and sabotaged Bidenā€™s run against Sanders.

Iā€™m not buying any media coverup because I believe it was just that social media propaganda engine fueled by Trump and Rudy making up shit and the media spotted that is was really a nothing burger and said they wonā€™t be a party to it. All media platforms have editors in charge that decide what is or is not newsworthy and that has been that way since the printing press was invented. Them doing their jobs has not been called out as a grand conspiracy before.
 
I mentioned that you cannot prove what is in someoneā€™s mind to prove pedophilia unless you find proof like being in possession of child pornography as supporting evidence. That would be found on a computer. Like a laptop which the other idiot brought up. Learn to connect the dots moron.

Nah, I donā€™t keep up with your other conversations.


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The laptop story was really first and foremost about the Ukrainian situation. It later took a life of itā€™s own with the accusations of drugs and other stuff. But again, the DOJ had the laptop since 2019. If there was a real story it could have come out way back then and sabotaged Bidenā€™s run against Sanders.

Iā€™m not buying any media coverup because I believe it was just that social media propaganda engine fueled by Trump and Rudy making up shit and the media spotted that is was really a nothing burger and said they wonā€™t be a party to it. All media platforms have editors in charge that decide what is or is not newsworthy and that has been that way since the printing press was invented. Them doing their jobs has not been called out as a grand conspiracy before.

That makes sense if you're a 12-year-old kid but that's not how the world works right now.
 
That makes sense if you're a 12-year-old kid but that's not how the world works right now.
Really. Why donā€™t you explain to the community how the ā€œworldā€ works right now.
 
I have said before that the claimed efficiency was a gross exaggeration.
 
So far, you haven't paid attention at all.

You're too childish.
So, in otherwords, you cannot explain it and now you are running and hiding. We all understand you very well. So either man up and explain it or shut up.
 
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