Lavender Spa Thread Gone?

I had the same question, haven't called that was in the AI summary google generates. If it for an owner that is chicken feed and not sure why it would be an issue, less than utilities for a couple of months, and can be written off.

Even for an attendant that is less than most competent girls make in a week, so a bit of an inconvenience; but if a one time expense vs annual, again not so onerous.

Maybe this is all a tempest in a teapot, for the by-law issue versus the zoning. and the hysteria is due to language and business barriers to fully comprehending the problem?

One lady asked me to check for her, waiting to hear back and may inquire further if that is what she wishes.

Thatโ€™s not for the businessโ€ฆbut individual.

As mentioned, not all the spas can apply for this, it depends on their zone.
 
Should be annual
Again, less than the weekly income for a competent attendant. Cost of doing business and should be deductible on income tax.

Richmond Hill also mentions an exemption for reflexology. Any idea if that is an option for some of the attendants?
 
I had the same question, haven't called that was in the AI summary google generates. If it for an owner that is chicken feed and not sure why it would be an issue, less than utilities for a couple of months, and can be written off.

Even for an attendant that is less than most competent girls make in a week, so a bit of an inconvenience; but if a one time expense vs annual, again not so onerous.

Maybe this is all a tempest in a teapot, for the by-law issue versus the zoning. and the hysteria is due to language and business barriers to fully comprehending the problem?

One lady asked me to check for her, waiting to hear back and may inquire further if that is what she wishes.
There are only 25 businesses with body rub licenses, you can have your business apply for a bodyrub licence but the application process is closed and has been a long time. Meaning no new businesses can get bodyrub licences. Only girls can apply to get there personal body rub license and go work at a licenced place.
So all the spas facing these hardships do not have the option of pivoting and getting a bodyrub licence to operate there spa.
 
You're annoyingly relentless man. Like nails on a chalk board. How many eyes must roll when they read the same garbage from you over and over.

Let's say you're not a puppet of the Bellagio promoter (you are still most definitely Gunnar ๐Ÿ˜‰) What is your motivation to continue to relentlessly hound and troll?
1. Nothing to do?
2. Mentally unstable.
3. ?????

On the other hand, my take is that Social Misfit is a fake id puppet of the Bellagio promoter whose character is designed specifically to police and bully, to deter opposition.

Why else would Social Misfit hound everyone that opposes the Bellagio promoter (Brad/XTC) and Brad not answer for himself??? Ever.

Brad/XTC's full time job is MP, and promoting obviously first and foremost Bellagio, but other fs spas as well.

He has it set up with the various spas to create traffic and in return gets compensated. To do this, he has numerous fake ids who charade as clients that provide exaggerated reviews/descriptions to attract interest which leads to traffic to the spa.

Maniacly genius! It must work however, how many of us have been duped when we attend based on the review/description to discover that it was completely misleading? I know I have been numerous times.

As the overwhelming majority of MP members(likely 90% or more) only read and don't post for fear of their significant other finding out, we only hear from a small percentage of those who have been duped by this scoundrel!!!

My advice, and I should listen to myself, is to not even respond!
Blower, I thought we put his shit behind us, now you want to dig it up again?

Now you think I'm gunnar again, make up yer mind will ya, u fucking incompetent.

Listen to yerself, do yerself a favor, stop replying to me man.

You know I'm only one person on here, but I hate averagejoe-idiot as well, almost as much as you boy
 
Again, less than the weekly income for a competent attendant. Cost of doing business and should be deductible on income tax.

Richmond Hill also mentions an exemption for reflexology. Any idea if that is an option for some of the attendants?
It takes a lot to navigate City Hall to get any licences especially anything related to any type of massage. It took me 5 visits to finally get mine.

And technically it does not allow us to do a full body massage. But we now at least have a licence hanging on the wall.
 
Again, less than the weekly income for a competent attendant. Cost of doing business and should be deductible on income tax.

Richmond Hill also mentions an exemption for reflexology. Any idea if that is an option for some of the attendants?

It really depends on the zone the spa is in. Some zones are very restrictive. I suspect Reflexology would fall under Personal Services which is not allowed in many zones.

RMTs are allowed pretty much everywhere but Bylaw will be more stringent checking them in the future. I was told being certified in Acupuncture is also permitted at most locations.

Many MPAs donโ€™t want the body rub license on their record. Some are or plan to do RMT so they donโ€™t want to be associated with body rub at all. Others are worried (justified or not) that people can search and find their names on the internet.
 
There are only 25 businesses with body rub licenses, you can have your business apply for a bodyrub licence but the application process is closed and has been a long time. Meaning no new businesses can get bodyrub licences. Only girls can apply to get there personal body rub license and go work at a licenced place.
So all the spas facing these hardships do not have the option of pivoting and getting a bodyrub licence to operate there spa.

You are talking about Toronto. It is not closed in Richmond Hillโ€ฆ
 
Blower, I thought we put his shit behind us, now you want to dig it up again?

Now you think I'm gunnar again, make up yer mind will ya, u fucking incompetent.

Listen to yerself, do yerself a favor, stop replying to me man.

You know I'm only one person on here, but I hate averagejoe-idiot as well, almost as much as you boy
2 option dumb dumb

1. You're a complete mental case parading around sticking up for the Bellagio promoter!! If this is the case.....go get help!
And yes YER ARE 1 MILLION PERCENT GUNNAR. LOL

2. You are a Bellagio promoter puppet.
Take yer pick!!!

Later gater
 
Someone in promotion should take the bull by the horns here, do the due diligence and find out what is required, then offer a package to various owners to help them navigate the process. Familiarity helps when dealing with bureaucracy from my experience, so being able to handle the problem for a group is beneficial to both sides in getting things sorted. Again, by law and licensing is different than zoning, but for the size of this industry and the money generated just in EBC, man this shouldn't need to be so convoluted,
 
Having a RMT licence does not mean the business has a business licence to operate.

Speaking to a few owners they do not seem to know the difference between what licence the MPA has and what the business need.

They might not know better but the people around them - the promoters, long time customers, etc should have known better.

Get whatever licence you need first to operate first. Worry about what you can or cannot do later.
According to ByLaw officer, if you have RMT lic, you can keep it open ( including 155, 165 EBC and 10 East Wilmot ), but the RMT has to be on site all the time and all the employees must also have RMT lic to provide massage. I told him it's quite impossible for all the employees to have RMT lic and almost all RMT clinics have only one RMT lic holder and the rest are all helpers with no lic. He said he knows that but they will be ticketed in Richmond Hill.
 
According to ByLaw officer, if you have RMT lic, you can keep it open ( including 155, 165 EBC and 10 East Wilmot ), but the RMT has to be on site all the time and all the employees must also have RMT lic to provide massage. I told him it's quite impossible for all the employees to have RMT lic and almost all RMT clinics have only one RMT lic holder and the rest are all helpers with no lic. He said he knows that but they will be ticketed in Richmond Hill.

This is correct. Even some very well known "legit" spas that have been operating for over 20 years will be shut down soon. I have a package at one of them...I will need to use that up very soon.
 
Is that for an owner? Or attendant?
Body Rub Lic is $6106
Owner's lic is $1,344
BRP attendant is only $366 each but no girls want to apply for it.

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Someone in promotion should take the bull by the horns here, do the due diligence and find out what is required, then offer a package to various owners to help them navigate the process. Familiarity helps when dealing with bureaucracy from my experience, so being able to handle the problem for a group is beneficial to both sides in getting things sorted. Again, by law and licensing is different than zoning, but for the size of this industry and the money generated just in EBC, man this shouldn't need to be so convoluted,

I have spent a lot of time going back and forth with both Bylaw and Zoning. There's really only one "feasible" option.

See if your zone can apply for Body Rub license...if not, you are shit out of luck. If you can, then you need to convince enough girls to get their license too because both the Business and the girls need to be licensed.

Btw, Bylaw is aware that the spas are looking for loopholes...
 
I have spent a lot of time going back and forth with both Bylaw and Zoning. There's really only one "feasible" option.

See if your zone can apply for Body Rub license...if not, you are shit out of luck. If you can, then you need to convince enough girls to get their license too because both the Business and the girls need to be licensed.

Btw, Bylaw is aware that the spas are looking for loopholes...
And that is what the spas in this so called Hot Zone need. Information and not speculation.

I hope come April 1st there will be a solution somewhere in the middle - between Body Rub and Full RMT on staff. Both these options are certainly not feasible based on the current situation.
 
Suko? It is far from EBC area? Why would they shut it down by April 20?
They are in Richmond Hill. City and BtLaw is going after every spa in R Hill.
 
So I guess Spa ownership will never be a mainstream business because of the stigma attached to it.

I own a spa. My name is on the licence. I own 2 other mainstream business. My name is on the ownership papers. I signed all the lease agreements. I am the person who goes to City Hall to get the licence for the Spa. I am one of the largest supplier of Massage comsumables to the wholesalers who sells to these Asian Spas.

My name is out there if anyone does a search of the business. But is it that much of a Public exposure? Only interested parties will do a search. 99% of Joe public do not know or even care..

Like I said one cannot have it both ways. Is it a legal business or an underground (unlicenced) business. One has to make a decision.

I don't decide whether there is a stigma or not, society does.

You might feel differently about the risk of exposure if you were a female keeping this from their family.

It is a legal business, as long as the rules are followed. You should know that's not always the case.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful CiCi working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  33. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage with
  34. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work,๐Ÿ…nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet looking,open maid,let you feeling warm and comfortable time๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  35. HollywoodSpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu.
  36. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia๏ผŒyoung girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  37. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young fun student Kitty 26โ€™s with curve body open mind and young pretty Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind, sexy flirty Yoyo with 36DD big buttocks open mind and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  38. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Emily, Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Linda , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Cici, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Kiki, Sara & Tracy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€ and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธCandyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  42. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] Alice spa has 3 attractive honeys today. Open 10am to 9pm: JENNY: is young , C cup, big ass, from Taiwan, Passionate, fs good at all all postions, available all services: bbbj , CIM , DFK Come on face , love shower together...always respects customers.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set
  44. Golden Flower Spa:
  45. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  46. Pink Flower Spa:
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised elega
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Suki and Water. Suki is thin but cute. She has a great smile and good massage skills. Water is young, pretty, tall, good in English and massage
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Barbie Petite Korea Part time School girl Elena Vietnamese sweetheart girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  50. Double_Tree:
    ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹4271 Sheppard Avenue east โคSaturday, ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’žNina, tall and full build, very experienced touch that will relax you and relieve all stress. ๐Ÿ’ฅ๐Ÿ’ž โ€ŠXixi,๐Ÿ’‹ medium height and build and nicely curved. Pretty, dark hair to shoulder. Nice relaxation technique and over the top finish+. ๐Ÿ“ž416 293-5071๐Ÿ“ž
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