Massage and Dash

[Qster]

There, because of the oversensitive seniors among us called me a racist, I deleted my post.

 

[GerryForMayor]

He was also non Caucasian. Which Can include a lot of people including myself. When it comes to people in general there are those of all ethnic diversity that will try to take what is not theirs to take. I understand why the massage providers and studios set boundaries. There will still be those that will try to impose their own will on women. Loogies aren't just green.

I was at a spa where at least half the clientele is brown or black. Others are Asian. Perhaps a third are white. One of the girls came running to me because a client had filmed her without his consent. We got him to delete the video. He was white. Should they ban all white guys now?

 

[bigbill]

I kinda did this once over 20 years ago. I went to a new place and saw someone I'd never seen before. As we got rolling, we came to a price agreement for a basic massage and HJ. There was no teasing and then when we started the HJ, she gave me three strokes and then told me I was taking too long and she said "times up" and left the room.

I left the massage fee on the table, no tip, and left.

I didn't truly "dine and dash" as I did at least cover the massage price.

As I was walking away, she screamed at me out the window (the place was on the second floor) and I just kept walking. She didn't follow.

 

[Mebad23]

I had a massage a few years back where the lady had been one of my go to's for a few years. It had always been legit with me even though she was known to give he to others. Her massage was always good so I just decided to not seek anything else as it was not offered. The last time I saw her she gave me a fuck you attitude and a substandard massage. She didn't even seem to gaf . So I paid the 80.00 after at the counter and gave
Her 0 TIP FOR HER 0 EFFORT. the look on her face was pure rage but he never said a word. I never went back either and won't. In this case I could have just as easily paid the room fee up front. If I had paid ahead and tipped her like I had in the past and got thst performance I would have the one with that look on my face

 

[Old Fart]

Why don't they take payment first?

It's always purse first, ass last.

Are you kidding me? Have you seen all the guys bitching and whining and all the restaurant comparisons when this topic is discussed?!?!?!?!
I agree that payment should always be upfront but the fuckin bellyaching that goes on when this is discussed is beyond belief.

 

[Old Fart]

That doesn't really narrow anything down.

Exactly. It is not like with guys respect women. Just look at this board and ow many cheaters there are and the rude posts and the names used to refer to the ladies and the discussions about their body parts. Hardly respectful. The few guys that are respectful are usually labelled as "white Knights".

 

[Albertaman]

Long thread describing facts of life.. there are plenty of jerks, crooks, malicious folks and there are also plenty of good people. The best business people including therapists know how to draw in the best clients and discourage the rest. When they don’t.. they put up with more of the riff raff. The shops that see more of the crap are depending on more walk in business.. of all races. They don’t have the repeat biz


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[Mebad23]

There are places I go , where everything is pre paid. I have no issues with paying up front, with the knowledge that any tips will be reflected in the service. They do not disappoint. I guess it is a 50/50 chance you would either take or not. I read a lot of reviews and do my homework before going to seek services. I have found that if you treat the ladies with respect and not like brood mares they warm up to you. Most of them will in my experience be softer in their approach. Respect goes a long way like OF said. Take a look at the fuktards that run their gobs on these threads . That tells you how they view women providing services that end up messy . That's why they are fuktards

 

[Old Fart]

There are places I go were everything is pre paid. I have no issues with paying up front, with the knowledge that any tips will be reflected in the service. They do not disappoint. I guess it is a 50/50 chance you would either take or not. I read a lot of reviews and do my homework before going to seek services.

Same here, pay up front. Some guys seems think that if service is subpar, they can pay less at the end than the agreed upon amount. I see that as a "dine & dash" whether you pay less or nothing.
Anybody can rip off everybody once but if you want to earn a living, you need repeat business and you will not get repeat business if you are ripping people off with subpar service. So if I am not happy with service, I simply do not go back. I think the provider has a right to know why you will not go back so that they have a chance to correct their ways (assuming that it is not clear what they are doing wrong).

 

[Shoe Collector]

Same here, pay up front. Some guys seems think that if service is subpar, they can pay less at the end than the agreed upon amount. I see that as a "dine & dash" whether you pay less or nothing.
Anybody can rip off everybody once but if you want to earn a living, you need repeat business and you will not get repeat business if you are ripping people off with subpar service. So if I am not happy with service, I simply do not go back. I think the provider has a right to know why you will not go back so that they have a chance to correct their ways (assuming that it is not clear what they are doing wrong).

This is the best approach honestly. Be a gentleman before anything else. Both client and provider end up having a more relaxed session once the agreed amount is paid. If they enjoy your company and feel respected the session will have enthusiasm. If they do not feel respected, they will make sure you’re not a repeat customer. After they know you, payment can always come after. It goes both ways.

 

[Lalallala]

This is an interesting topic. Glad i came across it. I pretty much do whatever makes the woman comfortable since it usually makes the entire session more relaxing. At my regular place I usually just pay at the end now since sometimes I extend the time if the woman doesn’t have an appointment after. But the other day, I saw a new person who hasn’t seen me before and I paid up front.

Interestingly, the woman who runs the place does screen customers even if that makes the business a bit slower. I had asked another woman there during our session and she says that the loss of earnings is ok since they feel safer because of it.

 

[Sun&SandMan]

This is an interesting topic. Glad i came across it. I pretty much do whatever makes the woman comfortable since it usually makes the entire session more relaxing. At my regular place I usually just pay at the end now since sometimes I extend the time if the woman doesn’t have an appointment after. But the other day, I saw a new person who hasn’t seen me before and I paid up front.

Interestingly, the woman who runs the place does screen customers even if that makes the business a bit slower. I had asked another woman there during our session and she says that the loss of earnings is ok since they feel safer because of it.

Interesting,... on what basis do they pre-screen?

 

[massagereviewer]

Interesting,... on what basis do they pre-screen?

They have a ruler. There's just one basic screen test. Manager said if you're 5 inches or less, they will tell you to leave!! The cold days of winter are just around the corner!!

 

[Lalallala]

Interesting,... on what basis do they pre-screen?

Phone call for those making appointments and even then, inside the exterior door are cameras and a locked door. I guess people who come that they don't want as clients (e.g. women, kids ) are just told that all the attendants are busy and to come back later.

 

[Albertaman]

Pre-screening is usually done to assess hygiene and the thickness of your billfold.


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[Sun&SandMan]

Pre-screening is usually done to assess hygiene and the thickness of your billfold.


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LOL,

 

[quesoblanconorte]

This is an interesting topic. Glad i came across it. I pretty much do whatever makes the woman comfortable since it usually makes the entire session more relaxing. At my regular place I usually just pay at the end now since sometimes I extend the time if the woman doesn’t have an appointment after. But the other day, I saw a new person who hasn’t seen me before and I paid up front.

Interestingly, the woman who runs the place does screen customers even if that makes the business a bit slower. I had asked another woman there during our session and she says that the loss of earnings is ok since they feel safer because of it.

What? That’s bizarre….treating people like they are humans, and respecting their boundaries? Dang, no way that will work out well for you…

I’m not used to being asked to pay up front in semi-legit places….but if I am asked, I will. The odds of me enjoying myself go way down if she’s wondering if I’m going to try to stiff her, or she’s on edge because of conflict with me over whether or not I should have to pay up front.

I’m under no illusions over the mostly transactional nature of a visit….but that doesn’t mean that things can’t be improved if each person in the room is willing to make things easier/simpler/less stressful for the other.

 

[artluvsmassage]

First time visiting a place, or first time with a particular gal, ya, I'm ok with fronting the cash before starting.
After the gal gets to know you, as a regular or just someone they recognize, then I'd hope the up front payment would be relaxed... but if it isn't... no harm, no fowl !
Hard to get fussed over this... just my $0..02 worth.

 

[Tkamiya17]

First time visiting a place, or first time with a particular gal, ya, I'm ok with fronting the cash before starting.
After the gal gets to know you, as a regular or just someone they recognize, then I'd hope the up front payment would be relaxed... but if it isn't... no harm, no fowl !
Hard to get fussed over this... just my $0..02 worth.

I’m gonna need that 2 cents upfront.

 

[UserNameTaken]

First time visiting a place, or first time with a particular gal, ya, I'm ok with fronting the cash before starting.
After the gal gets to know you, as a regular or just someone they recognize, then I'd hope the up front payment would be relaxed... but if it isn't... no harm, no fowl !
Hard to get fussed over this... just my $0..02 worth.

Crazy times....a few months ago while getting my haircut in the mall, some fellow received his cut and bolted out the door as soon as he got out of the chair. Instead of paying the hairstylist at the desk, he was making tracks out of the mall. Going forward, if you are not a repeat customer the business requires you to pay upfront.
About a week ago while line at 7/11, a guy got the employee to get him a hotdog from that mini grill that they have going in the 7/11's.
Once the guy was handed his hotdog...instead of paying at the till he just kept going for the door and jumped into his running van. Another customer ran out to get a pic of his getaway van. I laughed as my thought was that was stolen as well. Ha!
So it's everywhere, just not massage establishments. Kinda like watching the collapse of society in real time with all the shenanigans that go on daily.