Massage and Dash

Crazy times....a few months ago while getting my haircut in the mall, some fellow received his cut and bolted out the door as soon as he got out of the chair. Instead of paying the hairstylist at the desk, he was making tracks out of the mall. Going forward, if you are not a repeat customer the business requires you to pay upfront.
About a week ago while line at 7/11, a guy got the employee to get him a hotdog from that mini grill that they have going in the 7/11's.
Once the guy was handed his hotdog...instead of paying at the till he just kept going for the door and jumped into his running van. Another customer ran out to get a pic of his getaway van. I laughed as my thought was that was stolen as well. Ha!
So it's everywhere, just not massage establishments. Kinda like watching the collapse of society in real time with all the shenanigans that go on daily.
This is not all that far from the truth. In the states, โ€œsmash and grabโ€ in retail is so rampant that the security guard industry is struggling to keep up with the demand. Many larger chain stores have issued policies to just allow it as long as the value is below a set criteria. And many of the smaller chains are just locking everything up or moving to online solutions.
Iโ€™ve heard from my kids that teenagers are now doing this just for shits and giggles because no one is trying to stop them. Look at how the 7-11โ€™s are closing up shop in crime riddled areas in Edmonton.
The fact that we are seeing it in the service industry reflects how the lack of security and enforcement there is in the retail sector. However โ€œdine n dashโ€ has been around since I was a young criminal and still exists. Not all that much different.
Being the only real ramifications to dashing on your bill in the service industry is that at the very least the business may have enough details to ban you from returning or refuse you should you try. However with turnover and complacency, itโ€™s only a matter of time, really.
 
A couple of years ago I went to xiaoping and after the session gave the girl her tip from my back pocket , I keep room fee in front pocket,
I was distracted by thinking of my errands to run, put on my shoes and went to Superstore. Put my hand in pocket to get shopping cart money and room fee is still there.
Got back in car drove back to xiaoping and walked back in to pay at the desk with apology.
Linda said that's ok I knew you would either come back or pay next week.
 
A couple of years ago I went to xiaoping and after the session gave the girl her tip from my back pocket , I keep room fee in front pocket,
I was distracted by thinking of my errands to run, put on my shoes and went to Superstore. Put my hand in pocket to get shopping cart money and room fee is still there.
Got back in car drove back to xiaoping and walked back in to pay at the desk with apology.
Linda said that's ok I knew you would either come back or pay next week.
Weird shit like that happens when you are honest and treat people well, eh?

That level of being distracted is very relatable for me - and my impulse in that situation would have been to do exactly what you did.
 
What? Thatโ€™s bizarreโ€ฆ.treating people like they are humans, and respecting their boundaries? Dang, no way that will work out well for youโ€ฆ๐Ÿ˜œ

Iโ€™m not used to being asked to pay up front in semi-legit placesโ€ฆ.but if I am asked, I will. The odds of me enjoying myself go way down if sheโ€™s wondering if Iโ€™m going to try to stiff her, or sheโ€™s on edge because of conflict with me over whether or not I should have to pay up front.

Iโ€™m under no illusions over the mostly transactional nature of a visitโ€ฆ.but that doesnโ€™t mean that things canโ€™t be improved if each person in the room is willing to make things easier/simpler/less stressful for the other.
Some knobs scoot without paying. Then she is going to be paranoid for awhile, but not with her regular clients. A good proportion of clients actually are regs, at least of the spa if not the girl, so its just new clients who get that treatment.
 
I was with my regular today. She does not like guys that complain about service and want discounts. Some only want to pay half up front then try to get a discount after. I always pay her in advance and I pay her well. She is well worth it.

We often go out and just chill. There is a respect and a genuine affection shared . Paying up front shoukd not be an issue.
 
If you a newer customer to the spa and have not built any trust with them then you should expect to pay up front! But if you have a very good relationship with the spa you are at and even if girl is new hire , then they will most likely vouch for you and say not to worry and will be paid after your appointment is finished! This has been my experience over the years ! If service is sub par then they may not get the full tip but the spa knows me well enough that it takes extremely poor service for this to happen! ! And has only happened a very very few times over the many years that I have been a client of thereโ€™s !
 
First time visiting a place, or first time with a particular gal, ya, I'm ok with fronting the cash before starting.
After the gal gets to know you, as a regular or just someone they recognize, then I'd hope the up front payment would be relaxed... but if it isn't... no harm, no fowl !
Hard to get fussed over this... just my $0..02 worth.
I don't understand why guys make such a big deal about this. Assuming you do intend to pay and not rip off the lady, what difference does it make if you pay upfront or after? I always prefer to p[ay upfront and get this business part out of thew way. The lady, then, also knows that she is not getting stiffed so she can relax which means you will get her undivided attention.
 
These ladies aren't a steak dinner. Paying up front is industry standard for FS and independent girls for sure.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Freedom Friday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Aaliyah, Tina, Coco, Cici, JPN Yui, Super Happy, Echo, Selena & Dorisโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  37. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธJazmin๐ŸŒธAletta Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  38. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธMei๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  41. wonderspa:
    . ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)best massage in vaughan,if you need to find a comfortable place to revive your body rexlaing come visit us.๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Jessica C cup,very good looking really know what do you want๐Ÿ˜ปJoey very beautiful face nice body slide,good deep tissue massage.sevrvice queen Amy she can do everything you want,must try๐Ÿ…๐Ÿท๐ŸทL6a4h8๐Ÿ“ช
  42. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Nayla, Lily & Sasa are in today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„ Nayla is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. ๐Ÿ˜˜ Lily is a young & Pretty Vietnamese Girl ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  44. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet slime Summer 30โ€™s and cute EFG Lina , sexy Coco and pretty Tina 30โ€™s with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North YorK
  45. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Jessica 155 cm, 90Ibs Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along Sasa Sexy Vietnamese Body Type She is very sweet Provides Excellent Customer Service Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  46. See You Health Center:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, Sexy Skinny Spinner Body โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  48. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mia & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen, and is open to dfk and cfs.
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ LINA, YOYO & CINDY. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups and a very sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services.
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