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take a look at these videos -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j2f7gI4JwQ&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnUR58fwzjQ

i want to talk about professionalism here. first of all, i think it's unethical to take a video of a treatment and post it on youtube with or without the client's permission. it's one thing to have someone model for the purpose of demonstration and completely different when it's a real treatment. what do you think?

next - behavior. would you see a practitioner who's table side manner was so... loose? am i a prude for being totally turned off by this kind of behavior? i think that teasing and joking around with someone while they're on the table is totally inappropriate and unprofessional.

i feel a bit embarrassed for even paying attention to a procedure dubbed "emotional liposuction". it's obviously and excessively showy... which i perceive as a "bogus flag". so my third question to you all (and the reason i posted this question in the energy work forum) is - do you guys see any bogus flags here?
 
unprofessional behavior??

While they're are definitely not my "cup of tea" and less than what I'd consider professional - if people give their permission to subject themselves to being videotaped it's up to them. Unfortunately youtube has become an open arena for all kinds of things & its a free for all....So you can find great, not so great & downright awful videos there.

It is what it is.
 
unprofessional behavior??

If they're up for being on video that's their call, but when I see someone diving in and jamming thumbs into someone's ribcage and planting fingers between a woman's breasts when she was obviously caught off guard, and continuing when she's trying to block his hands and move away?

That's just not right.
 
unprofessional behavior??

Yikes. He seemed to move a little too fast for my taste and kept going after she pushed him away? Also, you go poking hard into someones body, you are going to get that reaction. I would never subject myself to being treated that way.
 
unprofessional behavior??

As far as the 2nd video (didn't watch the first) I disagree, I think that her hands went up in surprise but I don't see that she was trying to push him away. I just think she was nervous and the fellow's personality just happens to be matter of fact. As someone who has both experienced and witnessed a lot of various types of energy work, I thought it was interesting.
 
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So, if I jam my hands into those areas, I would be detecting abandonment, rage, bitterness, anger, fear, etc... instead of tissues responding to sudden, hard pressure? Right. :roll:

Both videos strike me as complete malarkey, and the "practitioner" is thoroughly unprofessional. He strikes me as a con man who simply enjoys messing with people's heads (and wallets). :smt011
 
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Yeah, I'm pokin' at myself tryin' to determine what my issues are!!
 
unprofessional behavior??

JasonE said:
So, if I jam my hands into those areas, I would be detecting abandonment, rage, bitterness, anger, fear, etc... instead of tissues responding to sudden, hard pressure? Right. :roll:

Both videos strike me as complete malarkey, and the "practitioner" is thoroughly unprofessional. He strikes me as a con man who simply enjoys messing with people's heads (and wallets). :smt011
:iagree:
 
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Shannon said:
JasonE said:
So, if I jam my hands into those areas, I would be detecting abandonment, rage, bitterness, anger, fear, etc... instead of tissues responding to sudden, hard pressure? Right. :roll:

Both videos strike me as complete malarkey, and the "practitioner" is thoroughly unprofessional. He strikes me as a con man who simply enjoys messing with people's heads (and wallets). :smt011
:iagree:

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Ugh. I didn't click on the links when this was first posted; I did the first one today, and was so totally turned off I barely got half a minute through it before closing the window. Ick. Yuk. Nasty.
 
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Timedess said:
Ugh. I didn't click on the links when this was first posted; I did the first one today, and was so totally turned off I barely got half a minute through it before closing the window. Ick. Yuk. Nasty.

No, no... watch the whole thing. Learn what not to do.
 
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I only watched a portion of the first video and I was irritated. It appears that this poking and jabbing as demonstrated, can provide an emotional release... an emotional release of yeah, whatever (!!) :shock: , in my opinion.

This thread may be a nice one to consider for many reasons: Should a massage hurt?

Regarding emotional release work, I have found that it takes a steady and moderate pressure with a full hand to be most effective.
 
unprofessional behavior??

I didn't like that one bit...it appears he's touching Mu points. I have never seen any type of work done by a jerk like that before. I wouldn't trust him with anything emotional. It looks like he had his sister or somebody sit for him.
 
unprofessional behavior??

I'm not the most knowledgeable person on energy work but this is what I get from this:

1) Not quit sure if it's unprofessional. Everyone works differently with different clients. I work in a PT studio and a lot of my clients really enjoy chatting and joking, it's a good break from the daily grind for them.

2) Pretty sure what he's doing doesn't make sense. It seems....Scammy.
 
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I'm not so quick to dismiss such things. I've experienced the same things as the young woman and only found relief through a similar process, and I cried even harder than she did. Letting go hurts.

In Traditional Chinese medicine, the organs store the emotions; this is just one way of relieving them.
 
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ReikiDude said:
I'm not so quick to dismiss such things. I've experienced the same things as the young woman and only found relief through a similar process, and I cried even harder than she did. Letting go hurts.

In Traditional Chinese medicine, the organs store the emotions; this is just one way of relieving them.

So you think this guy is legit and not just taking advaneforum.xxxe of gullible marks? :smt010 Crying doesn't necessarily herald emotional release - sometimes it is a sign of pain, or a new trauma, both of which may apply to the demo clips posted. :smt011
 
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Well, as I said, it was a similar treatment that helped me escape the emotional agony I was in. Was I gullible? Was I "cured?" I say I was cured!
 
unprofessional behavior??

ReikiDude said:
Well, as I said, it was a similar treatment that helped me escape the emotional agony I was in. Was I gullible? Was I "cured?" I say I was cured!

That is the power of placebo enhanced by the power of misdirection so frequently used by con men and magicians. If a person wants to believe something helped them for X reason, they will do so even if the facts indicate that X reason is utterly false and that far more conventional explanation is available. Or, as the old saying goes, "Your faith has made you well!"
 
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    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage and...
  32. Dreaminn:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: KELLY, LULU & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5โ€™3โ€ with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services. LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim and beautiful with 34C Cups and incredible services..
  33. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy & Lina Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did.
  34. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves. She can bbbj like a queen, & is open to dfk & cfs.
  35. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young new sweet Vicky with curve body and young pretty student Summer, young fun sexy Tina and cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ2 new girls ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนAmy so sexy body ๐Ÿ”ฅbig boost very nice girl ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’Lucy so hot sexy service good deep tissue massage ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  37. HKWQ:
    Club Dynasty: Some of the shiatsu massuses are way too old!
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT 8!! INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FOR A VARIETY OF APPETITES!!! END YOUR WEEK WITH A WILD TIME WITH JAPANESE CHANEL & TAIWANESE ZOE 905-604-8186!!!
  39. bumika.vashi:
    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
  40. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ REWARD YOURSELF! KAJAL, CANDY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  41. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am,New First Day Young Slim Sexy Thai Girl Janice, Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Young Sexy Curvy Latina Karen, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  42. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CANDY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนevery day 3 girls ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนNew girl Vicy ,sexy body very good body slide ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐ŸฅฐCici Strong Deep Tissue,Jenny very good table shower body scrub ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kong
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Eva , Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Cici๐Ÿ˜˜A very beautiful and sexy little fangirl, she has a sexy and petite figure, Cici service is first-class, worth having and trying, she belongs to the elite๐Ÿ‘She is very friendly, very cute and exquisite little model!!๐ŸฅฐReal pictures
  48. NewOriental:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’šNEW ORIENTAL SPA๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: EMMA, HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-381-2688 โ˜Ž๏ธ EMMA is a young & pretty Chinese babe with very liberal services. HAPPY is a slim Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young girls are working today, young cute Ivy with curve body and young sweet Japanese Lily 36DD, sexy Coco and Pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage. Pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Dreaminn:
    THURSDAY at๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: EVA, KELLY & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ EVA is a slim, pretty & sexy Asian girl. She has excellent bbbj skills if you are nice and clean, and can perform like a champion. KELLY is a young & pretty Asian girl, very slim model figure, 5โ€™2โ€ with unreal bbbj skills & very liberal services.
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