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[Ursus]

Makes sense, most guys are attracted to what they didn't have growing up with, reason why so many white guys keep the Asians busy in the GTA, although I do suspect the Asian males do help out once in a while, lol.

Yes. Agreed. The exotic factor. I also want to add that white guys like Asian girls because Asian girls are more feminine that White girls. White girls are generally aggressive, angry, overweight, aged and worn-out. Asian girls are the opposite, generally speaking - feminine, thin and youthful.

 

[Ursus]

It surely is a good deal if you look at it from the point of out call service fee for a SP or MPA. I might be wrong but what Hangdai was trying to say was there were lots of times your fav MPA might see you outside for free if you both like each other. I used to have a few SPs and MPAs who just want to hang out with me for fun for drinks, dinner or karaoke on their day off or after their shifts and sometimes spent overnights together. (hey Ursus, your fav Miki is one of them. She can dance very well but her singing was terrible. I will never forget what she told me that night in my bed. "we don't fuck tonite ok but we will make love".). Those are the real good deals.

I don't advise making friends with hookers. They are just players and I have no time for female players. Miki is a very sweet girl and I really liked her alot, but nonetheless, I would never want to make friends with any hookers going forward. Did that before and I learned my lessons. Making friends with a sex-worker is like making a deal with the Devil. Yes, you might think it is a great idea at the beginning, but sooner or later, you will pay dearly. You have to remember that hookers become hookers for a reason. It doesn't just happen. Think of all the deception that a hooker incorporates into her daily routine and ask yourself if that is the type of person you want to associate with personally. Not for me. Hookers are great for the service they provide, but they aren't great for anything else.

Think of a hooker as a McDonald's restaurant. Very convenient, cheap, quick service that serves many customers throughout the day. You wait in line for a short while and when your order is ready, you eagerly snap it up with anticipation. Perfect when you are on your lunch hour and hungry and don't want to spend too much to fill your apetite. But, eat at McDonald's too often and your health with suffer. Not healthy unless done in moderation.

This is our sweet Miki. Holy shit, I miss that girl. She had beautiful, sexy toes.



Krayjee, my offer to you will always stand. If you put me in touch with Miki again and I get an appt with her, I will buy you an appt with one of your favourite girls. Keep that in mind please.

 

[smallpantieshk]

Yes, in Canada, the police can pull you over for any reason whatsoever. You don't have to be in violation of any law and they can pretty much do what they want with you and your vehicle. When I see a police officer either ahead in the distance or behind me, I immediately pull into a plaza and exit my vehicle. I enter whatever store I can or I do anything but hang around near my car.

The police are not your friend. They enforce the legislative acts passed by government that doesn't act on the will of the people. The more people they stop and the more charges they levy, the more money they receive - both departmentally and personally. Police officers are simply sales people and their comissions are earned based upon charges and convictions.

And you get this information from? Police officers are simply sales people? You sound like a hater.

 

[smallpantieshk]

Well...this is the kind of question which you will get different opinion from different guys. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ben sees Jessica as very pretty in his post. She is if you look at her from a certain angle like you said. Her young age carries some weights I guess. I like Cici's face better cuz she looks cute when she smiles and trying to seduce you. Michelle is more mature looking and looks quite pretty when she is laughing, it shows her genuine beauty than when she is smiling if I say it correctly. She 's a complete pkg to me in Semi legit spa standard. Her looks, her service, her body at her age is a rare find in any semi legit spa I have been to. She has a body of 20 yrs old as you can see in some of the posts in here ( post #233 & 242) and the picture below. Just wonder how she kept in shape without doing any exercises. Some guys in here love Jenny's look and she is very popular with EI guys. Everybody has different taste in looks, so there is no way to say who is better. The actress Lucy Liu looks pretty for some guys , she is just an average looking lady in her 6-6.5 out of 10 in my Asian eye.

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She is definitely not pretty. 6/10 is a very generous grade.

 

[Ursus]

And you get this information from? Police officers are simply sales people? You sound like a hater.

Yes. You are right. I do hate the police. They are there to harass, punish and levy fines on the common person. They get paid $100,000 per year plus pension and benefits - net result over $160,000 per annum - to lay charges, most of which are based upon laws that no one had an opportunity to vote on or endorse. And when the police officers break laws themselves, they protect their own and rarely face the same consequences. Do as I say, not as I do, in other words.

Are you aware that a police officer can pull you over if he 'suspects' you are operating an unsafe motor vehicle? He doesn't have to be correct, he doesn't have to have any mechanical aptitude, he just has to 'believe' that you 'may' be driving a car which is not 'safe'. That's a SUPER FUCKING LOW standard.

The police are also trying to pass laws that allow them to pull over any car, anywhere, anytime and demand that the driver submit to a breathalyzer, regardless of whether the driver was exhibiting any signs of drunkeness. And of course, they want to be able to search your car and your belongings once they stop you. This law is gaining momentum and one day it will be passed and we will be subjected to it.

If you don't see the truth, don't get angry at others who do. My father was a police officer, my borther in-law is currently an officer, my ex brother in-law is also a current police officer, and ALL OF THEM admit that the police do MANY bad things in their yearly rounds of law enforcement. They won't admit it to the general public, but if you know them on a personal level, they will admit the truth.

And yes, the police budgets are influenced by how many drivers they pull over, how many charges they lay and how much money they generate. Do you really believe that they do radar enforcement, levy millions in fines, but those monies DON'T affect their budgets and therefore, their pay? Why the fuck is the speed LIMIT still 100 km/hour???? Absurd. My car can handle and stop sooner at 120 km/hr than a car made in the 1980s that might travel at 100 km/hr on the road. Cars have improved so much, yet our speed limits haven't changed one bit? Why? Money for governments and police and those that live off of the law enforcement Con.

You might enjoy being someone's bitch, but I don't.

 

[Leo44]

You are right ursus... they can do whatever they want. ...

 

[roguejourney]

Don't worry, the hooker will likely see you again. You have a wallet and are willing to give her money, right? If the sex-worker thinks she can get some benefit out of you going forward, she will still see you. You can't screw things up with an escort - they are entertainers who will perform for any man with enough money in his pocket, few exceptions. They are basically 'open' for business to all and any customers - hence why they are called whores. Sure, I have been banned a few times from numerous girls, but it isn't that i screwed up, it's just that I had some legitimate customer service issues with them and I argued with them to voice my displeasure. It was always their fault - hookers are very difficult to get along with sometimes. I have always been a perfect gentleman in each and every appt that I ever undertook. Even the hookers who hate me admit that I am a perfect customer. They just don't like my personality when I have a complaint about their behaviour, but again, I have never done anything wrong, for it has always been the hookers fault.

Thanks for your input ursus! since the fallout i had with her i wanted to still be "friends" with her. I'm waiting a bit to let time heal. i said some nasty things to her which I'll admit was my fault. so after a while I'll summon the courage to ask her out again though there's a good possibility that I'll get shot down. that's my fear.. of rejection. but if that's how it is too bad for me. it was my fault anyway. though there's pof in the sea she's special to me. ive been seeking a replacement or substitute but no luck so far and isnt cheap lol. im also trying to get unhooked on her and hobby as a whole as this is eating up quite a bit savings and is a bit consuming. its fun and all but im trying to put a cap on it.

 

[roguejourney]

Exactly!

Yes totally agreed! i was trying to aim for that. we went on dinner dates and that wasn't on an SP clock or anything like that. we became friends and enjoyed each others company. as a gentleman i paid for her dinner and was glad to do so. she would fight with for the bill and one time she won and paid for a pretty expensive dinner.

At one point, i kinda jokingly said how about we do a sort of massage exchange where she would massage me and i would massage her. she was up for it. thats the closest ive gone. never happened unfortunately because of my screw up.

 

[roguejourney]

It surely is a good deal if you look at it from the point of out call service fee for a SP or MPA. I might be wrong but what Hangdai was trying to say was there were lots of times your fav MPA might see you outside for free if you both like each other. I used to have a few SPs and MPAs who just want to hang out with me for fun for drinks, dinner or karaoke on their day off or after their shifts and sometimes spent overnights together. (hey Ursus, your fav Miki is one of them. She can dance very well but her singing was terrible. I will never forget what she told me that night in my bed. "we don't fuck tonite ok but we will make love".). Those are the real good deals.

Damn kj you scored big time! if my fav mp said that in that situation my heart would skip a beat! good for you man!!!

 

[roguejourney]

I don't advise making friends with hookers. They are just players and I have no time for female players. Miki is a very sweet girl and I really liked her alot, but nonetheless, I would never want to make friends with any hookers going forward. Did that before and I learned my lessons. Making friends with a sex-worker is like making a deal with the Devil. Yes, you might think it is a great idea at the beginning, but sooner or later, you will pay dearly. You have to remember that hookers become hookers for a reason. It doesn't just happen. Think of all the deception that a hooker incorporates into her daily routine and ask yourself if that is the type of person you want to associate with personally. Not for me. Hookers are great for the service they provide, but they aren't great for anything else.

Think of a hooker as a McDonald's restaurant. Very convenient, cheap, quick service that serves many customers throughout the day. You wait in line for a short while and when your order is ready, you eagerly snap it up with anticipation. Perfect when you are on your lunch hour and hungry and don't want to spend too much to fill your apetite. But, eat at McDonald's too often and your health with suffer. Not healthy unless done in moderation.

This is our sweet Miki. Holy shit, I miss that girl. She had beautiful, sexy toes.

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Krayjee, my offer to you will always stand. If you put me in touch with Miki again and I get an appt with her, I will buy you an appt with one of your favourite girls. Keep that in mind please.

Its interesting how you draw parallels with mcds. im currently in the supersize phase. Lol

Damn that pic is hot especially in that outfit. if she has nice feet thats a big bonus in my books. i maybe weird and i suppose everyone has their body parts, but if a girl is 9/10 face/body but has ugly crooked toes thats a big turn off and her score drops.

 

[Ursus]

Roguejourney,

1) Has your hooker friend bought you something expensive?
2) Has she made a personal sacrifice with you in other areas?
3) Has she introduced you to her personal circle of friends or family?
4) Has she talked about you spending time with her when she leaves the industry?
5) Has she gone out of her way to help you by going above and beyond what a normal person would do?

Has she given you any indication that she wants anything to do with you other than having you pay for her meals or give her your resources?

You have to keep in mind that your hooker friend has 5 or 6 other 'special' guys that she does the same thing with. And when you make demands on her that she isn't willing to fulfill, she contacts the next guy waiting in que and she goes to dinner with him, gives him a massage, texts him late at night, etc. She laughs at the thought of all the guys willing to do WHATEVER SHE DEMANDS. She doesn't respect any of you and thinks you are worth very little over the long run.

Don't be fooled by a sex-worker.

 

[roguejourney]

That's what I normally did in the spa before I take them out. If you are good at massage, it's a big bonus and that's where you observe and get a good idea how far your lady is willing to go with you.

Roguejourney,

1) Has your hooker friend bought you something expensive?
2) Has she made a personal sacrifice with you in other areas?
3) Has she introduced you to her personal circle of friends or family?
4) Has she talked about you spending time with her when she leaves the industry?
5) Has she gone out of her way to help you by going above and beyond what a normal person would do?

Has she given you any indication that she wants anything to do with you other than having you pay for her meals or give her your resources?

1. No. only paid for a pretty expensive meal once. but we've only been on 3 dates.
2. Not that i can think of
3. Yes to a relative. She doesnt have any family here. however, she's made friends here but didnt meet them. they know about me and i know about them.
4. Nothing serious. i dunno what will happen to "us" after she leaves industry.
5. No i had asked for what i would consider a really easy simple favour and she wouldn't bother doing that for me.

To your last q, shes working as an mpa full-time including the longer weekend hours and also has an almost full course load at college. that's an extremely busy schedule. given her lack of time it's hard to tell whether she is genuinely interested in me or not. however she doesn't usually initiate a conversation with me. and MY PET PEEVE is that she had and still consistently skips over some questions when we chat in our text conversations or she'd reply with really short answers.

Shes a bit of a paradox. shes not interested in my money per say. she's working as an mpa to pay for school at specifically international rates which are $16k/yr. she needs to save enough to cover 2yrs. i had offered to loan her 2yrs coverage on multiple occasions but she would always refuse my offer. i do have that much trust in her. the loan never happened and she'll make her target within several months or a yr anyway.

Shes a genuine and honest person who treats me as just a friend and nothing more. if we're fwb status id be totally estatic about it and wouldnt want anything more than that.

shes a pretty streetsmart young lady from another country and her english isnt that good. ive never felt this way toward any mpa. its just bam bam thank you ma'am next.... but i developed something.

Its worth nothing I've lowered my expectations and actually trying to ramp down and get myself unhooked from her and the hobby. its not easy and ive gotten over the hard part earlier. now it's easier than what we had before but still an ongoing uphill battle within me.

Or at least bring it down ideally to a once a month visit.

 

[Ursus]

So, basically, you text her and she ignores you and if she does respond, her response is very short. And when you told her you were unhappy with her behaviour, she has decided to ignore you further. And so you think that if you are EVEN NICER to her in the future, she will somehow come around and the two of you will have a valuable friendship.

No. Won't happen.

She is typical cunt. Maybe she is nicer than the average MPA is to you, but she is still nothing better than a cunt.

If she wants something from you, she will contact you. If she can get something she wants from another guy, she will contact that guy. You are one of many guys she has on the go. And btw, no one is too busy. Too busy is just an excuse to avoid contact with you. When I ran my own business for 6 years, I was never too busy to contact anyone. No one is too busy, even the President of the United States. And she does socialize - all people do - just she chooses to socialize with other people and not you.

Don't feel bad. Women do this to EVERY GUY in their lives, eventually. Look at NFL football players. Most of the women in their lives eventually claim to be unhappy, divorce these men and then take all there property. These guys are good-looking, rich , popular, but the women eventually leave and take all the players' assets. Women are takers, plain and simple. Move on and forget about her. No women is worth it and especially not a sex-worker. To cry over the lost relationship with a sex-worker is like getting upset that another driver on the road crashed into the car in front of you and not your car. Don't feel sorrow, feel lucky.

Research the life and personality of Moemoe Yamaguchi. Then compare her with a sex-worker. Then ask yourself: 'Is a sex-worker really the best woman I can get? Can I not get any woman who is better?' You set your standards VERY LOW when you put a sex-worker on a pedestal.

 

[Nanziqi]

If she wants something from you, she will contact you. If she can get something she wants from another guy, she will contact that guy. You are one of many guys she has on the go. And btw, no one is too busy. Too busy is just an excuse to avoid contact with you. When I ran my own business for 6 years, I was never too busy to contact anyone. No one is too busy, even the President of the United States.

I have to agreed with you on this part I am in a similar situation,and its not feel good.

 

[hangul99]

If she wants something from you, she will contact you. If she can get something she wants from another guy, she will contact that guy. You are one of many guys she has on the go. And btw, no one is too busy. Too busy is just an excuse to avoid contact with you. When I ran my own business for 6 years, I was never too busy to contact anyone. No one is too busy, even the President of the United States.

I have to agreed with you on this part I am in a similar situation,and its not feel good.

I'll give you the same advice I was going to give Rouge. Don't let yourself become a victim. Some girls have what I like to call "spa boyfriends". They will treat you like a boyfriend while you are there. They may also keep in contact with you outside of the spa. While they may like you. They also like a hand full of others. It's the hard truth.

It's ok to repeat with them but make sure to spread the wealth. See other girls. It will soften the blow.

 

[goingbroke]

++++1, and be warned. Don't make them fall in love with you. If they did, you are looking for big trouble, especially if you 're married. I went through hell with one K girl who fell in love with me a few yrs back. Trust me, it wasn't pretty.

Can you post the story behind this? How did it start, how far did things go?

 

[hangul99]

Can you post the story behind this? How did it start, how far did things go?

I think it would be wise for him to keep that story to himself. But as he said. It did not have a pretty ending.

None of them do. Trust me. I can also speak from experience. While things can start off innocent enough, as the relationship gets complicated, you are bound to take some casualties along the way.

 

[Leo44]

Come on guys.... tell us what happened. ..it will be a learning experience for us

 

[Leo44]

Come on guys it will be a learning experience for us...

 

[Leo44]

Iver never dated an Asian mp ... they just txt me when they want to $ee me. Learn the hard way that giving them my number was a huge mistake because they txt me at random days and hours... had to hide my cellphone sometimes. I went out with one of my regulars two times only. Nothing spectacular though. Never have gone beyond with them ... they always tell me they don't go out with customers. ..