Dating an Asian Massage Girl

[Ptah]

Dayyyyyum!

I spent my 21st birthday at Dangerous Curves. Fuckin awesome night. Wound up with this Betty Paige look a like sitting on my lap while she hung out with me and my friends. She left a wet spot on my jeans so we hooked up after she got off her shift. Good times.

I also got a great wet hj while I fingered her at Carousel Club on the West Side. That place was so hit or miss. I think I tipped a few women to stay the fuck away from me.

Man, NYC was the shit in its day, wasn't it? So much has changed.

 

[Enalleanofarp]

What a fraud. TJsmile is now banned for having multiple personalities.

I just could never see myself dating any working girl because to me faithfulness works both ways. If you are comfortable with her providing 10s of other males while you are dating then all the power to you. There is a difference in dating or just prowling. I think most of us guys are on the prowl 90% of the time, 5% seriously dating and 5% just enjoying the single life.

 

[Maryah]

95% of the marriages were between couples outside their races. The other few points were of mixed variety. I dated a Korean who was dumped with child by a Korean for another Korean. So yes it happens in various forms in every juncture.
Right now I know of 3-4 Americans who still are married. The rest are separated, divorced, and their ex wives are working somewhere in the amp world as we speak. It's funny, I know a Milf Korean, she has a 21 year old kid. She likes to screw like nobody's business. She tells me that independence is what she likes. To be free. I guess that's my feelings because as soon as I feel the walls closing in I make a quick escape like Houdini.

I'm not thrilled about it, but looking at today's world and knowing many personal friends going through divorces and family stress makes me Thank Jesus himself that I'm a Free Agent and probably always will. My buds tell me that I'm so smart not to go the marriage root. I would say cunning or wise is the word they are looking for.

 

[axe]

Thanks TJ, this is probably closer to reality than simple generalizations.

What intrigues me now is how common the phenomena appears to be.
It suggest to me that the need to form "real" relationships both for mongers and workers alike is clearly there but while we dance with the greatest intimacy two people can share both monger and worker alike also have struggles with the very thing they crave.

 

[cosplayfan]

I have been pretty lucky:

I've been married for 20 years. Over the years I have had outside relationships (not all sexual) with ten women I met in this industry. I've never tried for freebies but I also believe that any relationship must feel fair. Of the ten friendships:

- one is my best friend, loyal, and true, a little messed up by the work, yet has always given me much more than I gave her, emotionally, physically, materially, spiritually.
- one was fundamentally dishonest, and I created a royal mess by falling for her, though she did cook me breakfast every day for three months. I foolishly gave her money in some deluded rescuer fantasy
- one was completely crazy, fruit-loops, spectacularly beautiful, American, and thank Christ I never trusted her.
- one is a business adviser/mentor, I consult her periodicaly and she helps me, gets nothing in return but good karma and conversation.
- one is my Korean fark-buddy, we rent rooms, settle in for a few hours of hottest sex ever, I pay for everything dinners, movies, shows, and pay her something when we see each other.
- four were unreliable, self-absorbed, flakes who took more than they gave and I didn't get close and dropped them quickly.
- one is my long-term "once a week girlfriend" who is explicit about keeping this a work-only relationship and protecting herself emotionally from this unavailable guy. She is a good friend, has always been honest, thanks me for money, never asks for anything, and gives good advice.

So:
4 wonderful experiences
2 bad experiences
4 non-starters

I think that sounds pretty good to me. None of these have been a girlfriend in the usual sense of the word.

 

[dahabiyapseeml]

So I respected the message you are conveying and others should do so too. Keep the romance out of it and the whole attitude of saving someone From a bad life. Bang them and pay them. If you can them outside , great but Trying to save them with loans, signning leases, getting apartments or even fucking Translating a document, keep your white knight mentallity in check.

 

[Auryana]

Bad Hygiene??? Speak for yourself!! LOL
Let's see, I may be considered old (40's), possibly overweight (yeah, I could stand to lose about 10-15, SERIOUSLY not more), and I'm definitely strange (that goes without saying). But BAD HYGIENE???

Sheesh...what's wrong with showering once a week and never brushing your teeth, combing your hair or washing your clothes. People used to live like that all the time!

 

[Shayla]

I've been there. And everything you said is absolutely true..

 

[Dani D]

Amen to that sentiment.

 

[proud walker]

This thread should me called Moths to A Flame. How about Peyton Place!!! Ican tell fropm reading here and other boards, that a lot of the fellas have been Burnt at one time or another and they want toshare their experiences so others don'fall The same way they did. When you over generalize and bad mouth the girls the white knights Are going to come in and defend them. So I say fuck it don't share anything and let these Dumb mother fuckers get sucked dry and possibly lose their family. Just treat it as it is, A good time with a girl and move on. One of the greatest monger minds besides me, of course, VeryRandy can tell you how some of the girls try to hit you for cash and then try to split on you. I was hanging with an AMP girl talking about my buddy and his relationship with another AMP girl And that I was trying to warn him of the perils of their situation and she flat out told me to Mind my own business. I thought this girl was cool but she told me not to ruin it for others. So you See you guys are marks and will remain so if you don't understand the working girl mind. Money, money, money and more money. All of you are ATM for them, keep falling for their shit And see where that gets you. No one said there can be exceptions, and if you are not one, heads up SUCKERS.

 

[Gerald Cline]

jack, well said... i echo your statements, although with a lot less experience with these women.

not to be nosy but out of the hundreds of marriages that you know of, what percentage of the husbands were non-asian? i would appreciate some input from a more experienced monger.

 

[xo NavyGirl]

i said SOME of them have disposable income. not all of them blow all their cash in the casinos or are in debt. SOME of these girls actually have plans and have saved money. (not that hard if you know about their earning potential)

the same way most guys don't mind spending money on a woman, a woman SOMEtimes wants to do that for a guy she likes. note that: a GUY SHE LIKES... not to 'any gigolo that asked for it.'

as for 'giving money away,' who said that they were giving their money away? they are just spending a portion of their disposable income on a guy she likes. also, clothes, food and hotels in flushing are not that expensive. the gifts i received were NOT lavish in any way. the kind of things that your SOs buy for you guys, minus the hotel rooms, which i prob paid for more than she did anyway.

and no, they are not nymphos. they still sell their bodies for more cash. simple enough right? the same way most men work jobs that they don't enjoy but still need/want the next paycheck, the women do not enjoy strange old men, but that is outweighed by the cash they earn from them.

also, just because they have disposable income doesn't mean they are ready to retire, or switch jobs and work for a fraction of what they are used to earning. most americans in this country are in debt and they still keep spending money. what's wrong with her spending money that she actually has? what is so hard to comprehend about that?

i am not fat, balding or anywhere close to 50 yrs old. i am an average guy with an average job that just happened to click with a KMP gal.

i also mentioned that in these situations, i usually reciprocated some how. i certainly was not just taking advantage of a clueless woman. we enjoyed each others' company, and we spent money on each other. also i am used to being the one that pays when i usually see a girl. i am certainly not cheap when it comes to women. i am not rich by any means but i like to take care of my women, as long as i have enough to take care of my own behind.

the reason i posted was because many people only speak of them as leaches that will suck your bank account dry. and i was bringing attention to the fact that not all are like that. as i said in a previous post, 'it certainly is not the norm but it does happen'... SOMETIMES.

i have been lucky enough to have been in a relationship with a good KMP gal and she treated me in a very similar fashion that hominem spoke of, plus what i already mentioned.

 

[Santhosh S]

I think these rare episodes occur because the girl wants to delude herself into thinking that she can still have a "normal" BF. Sort of like the reverse of the situation where a monger believes that having an AMP GF is a real relationship , despite the fact that he's paying. It always comes down to money in one form or another , doesn't it?

 

[ndomoaacs]

I may have lucked out, but one of the best relationships I've ever had was with an ex-RB girl.

My ex-gf never asked me for anything or expected me to pay for her, support her, marry her, buy her gifts, etc. In fact, it was quite the opposite. She knew that she made a lot more money than I did, so she insisted on paying for everything. After a lot of arguing, she finally agreed to let me pay for dinners but refused to let me pay for "smaller" things like cabs, coffee, drinks, dessert, late night food, movie tickets, etc. She bought things for me on occassion, but nothing lavish like what I've read in other posts.

Hardest part of the relationship was her schedule. I only saw her when she was on vacation. She would never tell me what amp she worked at (though I did know of course through Rmassageplanet, TER, etc). Whenever I went over to her place in Flushing, she would cook dinner for me. I remember offering to help cook or clear off the table, and she would shoo me out of the kitchen and tell me to go watch TV. Over the course of our one-year relationship, I got to meet many of her amp girlfriends and got to know some of them decently well. Sugar actually hung out with us a couple of times.

I don't know. I read all of these stories about how these guys got used by the girl, but that simply wasn't my experience....though my ex-gf did tell me stories about other amp girls. In the end, of course, it did not work out. I still see her on occassion at her work but now I'm just another paying customer.

 

[kori]

I don't disagree with you but if these K-girls were to hook up with a client off site and to allow the client to fuck them for free, it's because they are looking for something -- marriage, a different job opportunity, etc.

Unless you are willing to provide what the k-girls are really looking for, you are just taking advantage of their desperate attempt to have a normal American lifestyle. A 30 year old pretty K-girl just don't hook up with a 50 year old balding fat man because the fat and balding man is a "nice guy."

 

[otrqxaqa]

If these girls have so much disposable income to give to people, why are they still selling their bodies? Because they enjoy having sex with old, overweight strange men with bad hygiene and whatnot?

Something doesn't add up. These girls are engaging in a dangerous occupation because of the easy money, but once they get the money, they would freely give it to any gigolo who asked for it? What would be their purpose in allowing their vaginas to be penetrated from multiple men if they would then give the money away? Are they Nymphos?

 

[Old Thrusty]

If you eliminate the word "romantic," I would answer by saying better sex with some really good looking girls, and if handled correctly, could be less costly as well!

 

[kittykrazy7]

finally, someone posted about 'receiving' from these working girls. some of these ladies are very generous with their hard earned money. some of them have a lot of expendable cash and will not hesitate in spending if they like you.

i too have no problem paying for meals and most other stuff that women require. however, in my experience, the women that really like you, will insist on paying for everything.

although i usually reciprocate somehow, i have been on the receiving end of many meals, home cooked and at restaurants, clothes, shoes, hotels rooms, etc. one time, when i was going up to foxwoods, a girl gave me an envelope with cash and told me to have fun and wished me good luck. i thanked her but declined on accpting the money. i told her to go buy something nice for herself. she agreed, but after i left, i found the envelope in my coat pocket. i bought her a gift with the money and she was the happiest person in the world at the time.

this is certainly not the norm but it does happen. i look forward to hearing more about these type of experiences from other mongers.

 

[jack skellington]

You might want to edit your use of the term Chink as it probably violates the site's TOA.

I pretty much agree with what you said. I can never understand why anyone would want to have any kind of romantic relationships with K-girls or prostitutes in general. Not that they are evil people but you will make your head spin trying to figure out what their real agendas are by dating you. I was in a relationship with a civvy and it took me a year to realize she was using me to invest in her business. After I told her I was not interested in investing, she started acting cold and I broke up with her. If civvies can act this way, I can't imagine what the pros will be like.

Yeah, loneliness can really suck but in the age of the internet, it shouldn't be difficult to start something with someone who is not a pro.

 

[Open your eyes]

I don't know of any culture that holds prostitution in high regard. If a Brazilian, Russian, Chink or Kgirl was exposed back home it would be embarassing and quite explosive. Especially if their Internal Revenue Service found out about it. It amazes me how much you guys spend on this type of activity. I am more particular with girls these days and I won't pay more than $$ for FS period. One great thing about utilizing this type of service is that I don't have to get to know her nor get involved in her life.

Find a nice girl with your particular stats, do a credit check and go from there. Stay away from getting involved with any working girl for dating and marriage.